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alright boys and girls check out
www.theuprisingfilm.com (http://www.theuprisingfilm.com)

Its got a video of some of the riders I'v filmed with already on there.

Let me know what you think!

Cheers, Callum Swift

looks great mate! got a full english feel to it just like unscene (one of the most underrated films ever made)

my only quibble is the music didn't seem to go with it as well as it could, and thats one of the things that made unscene so fantastic. The music was always perfect for the riding on screen.

just my two cents worth... feel free to ignore.

That looks mint Callum, good work! ;)

cheers, constructive criticism is always good.  Music choice is probably the hardest thing about a film as you can never please everyone.  For example i personally find whiley on the moelfre bit of the new earthed amazing, but some people think its s**t.  but I will put in a wide variety of music so it doesnt get repetitive and your guaranteed to like some of it!

good footage, bad music...some nice editing..... ;D

Some more constructive praise:

Music I think is perfect for a teaser.

The lighting in most of those is excellent. How did you get sun so much!?

Good editing, I like that teaser better than your Dirt video which I wasn't so sure about editing wise. ;)

Thought the music was ace myself? Will be watching that trailer a few more times for sure :)

Very true! I think editing and timing can turn an ok tune into a frigging awsome section tho! check this out: http://www.pinkbike.com/video/8739/ (http://www.pinkbike.com/video/8739/)

This is just the extras off the dvd but i find it absolutly awsoem and just makes me want to go out and ride! more of this please!!

But again this is just my opinion!!!!!!! ::)

i really enjoyed that, great camera work and editing, the music was good too, just didn't like how lo fi it was. look forward to seein the finished product.

two thumbs up.

Looks good Callum. No point in me telling you what I think is right with it though ;)

Whats wrong is:

The general "sameyness". Most of the rider shoots look like they could have been shot on the same day in the same location.

Lack of any arty stuff. Get some tripod shots, scenery, non-panning shots etc. Personally I don't go in for it too much, but these days people expect films to look like that.

Music sounded like you had recorded it on a mobile phone ???

Apart from that you are onto a winner :)

Looks rubbish mate.....nah looks pretty cool, liking all the tight and twisty welsh stuff. Al bond's handlebars are comical.

Sam

als bars are the like wings of a plane! and also nice footage , well edited , great seletion of riders and good music but like supercross sed all the shots are a bit samey and the music quality is shite!

cheers guys, few replies;

Supercross' point about it looking like its all been shot on a welsh mountain is good, mainly because for the most part its true!  Luckily I am leaving England next week for the summer to film in Andorra, spain, france , italy, slovenia and south Africa.  So I reckon they should be a bit of Variation!
Also using more tripod shots etc; Its difficult on a steep wet welsh mountain but dont worry I am into that s**t when the tracks right.
music s**t quality; i couldent find a download so i recorded it whilst playing which is not ideal, but iv ordered a cd.

cheers

also its not the trailer or anything its just some of the stuff I have so far. 
check out the website for more info www.theuprisingfilm.com

my 2cents - dont hate me im a nice person :)

I think you need to give out jobs to people other than yourself I dont think the level of design / photoshop / typography work adds to the theme of it all at the moment, I would infact say it decreases it somewhat.

I cant comment on the song as I muted it after 20seconds - it really does sound like it was recorded on a mobile in the subway... really though get in touch with your audio because you need to realise the importance - great sound can carry the pace, feel and professional look of the film and poor sound will just distroy you and lose audience intrest at the first hurdle where as the picture can have somewhat a bit more leeway.

Its hard to judge editing on a teaser so as far as I can say is you have a few nice shots, steady hand and composition but like previously mentiond you need to set the scene on location more.

I think with all the rider access youve got and the mass of footage you must have it might be a good idea bringing an editor and music tech on board to solidify your film as its quite easy to get lost in the moment and have a b grade product

hope you dont mind too much what ive said i just dont see anypoint in suger coating stuff thats what friends and family are for.

Awesome mate, saw you at AE we was with the air horns lol

Umm hate to be pedantic..its James Mcknight..not Mcnight...other than that I'd quote Sion "mint"

some of those tracks are right outside my house nice one guys

That defeats the object of making a mountain bike movie though, part of the challenge and enjoyment comes from editing your own stuff. If you don't it's not completely your project and Rankin, Clay etc do their own stuff. Having said that doesn't Rankin get someone else to do music?

i would just like to add, remember this is only to give you guys a taste of what its about. Callum is slaving his ass off working then traveling etc to make this so for the time he gets to edit i struggle turning my computer on... i can assure all of you that the footage and music sounds land ooks twice as good when presented properly. and the sameyness of the shots will be corrected as i no Callum is traveling everywhere to get this variation in shots and more footage in general.

I think we should all just wait until the movie comes out and we see the actual sections on the DVD, no point picking apart a teaser is there?

whats the name of the song from the teaser,

Cheers
al.

well to be fair he did post it up so critisism is probobly wanted. I think what I have said is fair and I also think you'd be suprised at the level of dishing out that rankin and that actually do.

ah quit ur bitchin the guy has done an ace job good camera work. its a teaser.

rode the track today where baker is riding its ace flat out off camber

Thanks for the shutdown dude but if im honest I am going to ignore you.  I assume your speaking from a vast wealth of experience having made many films yourself?  Trying to work full time, film at every opportunity, design a website and edit all at the same time isnt ideal. and I could hire a camera crew and editors and sound technitions but that would entirely defeat the point of making a film as Mono said., and im not made of money.

everyone else cheers!

Ok then last post for you, whats the point in posting up a trailer and saying "Let me know what you think!" if you just want to be suger coated fair play mate, but to be honest it will get you nowhere closer to a better film infact it will probobly weaken your final product as you wont push as hard.

I never mentioned once paying anyone or even getting a camera crew.. infact I think if you read what I said I think you've done an alright job on camera...

But just as it happens film makers are never really good designers and usually dont grasp all the sound subtleties...

You can get on the offence all you like... I think what your doing is good but you need to get some people to help round your edges and have a s**t HOT film rather than an average one.

and I have made a few films myself with a lot of personal cost, time and effort and I know unless you have a lot of experiance (And even then) you shouldnt be taking everything all on your own - Im sure you'll learn a wee bit more this way but the final product wont be as good.

im not being a negitive bast im being real, if i didnt give a s**t i wouldnt post.

I know your not being negative, and there's some good points. But it's just a teaser. not even a trailer! 

I think the main point of posting up the teaser is to advertise his DVD not for critisism?! :P

I know that's why I put teasers online for my vid!

It still gives the feel of how the film will progress, but I'll wait for the trailer

the vid dont seem to work now, or is it just me?

sorry thats my fault, I took it off to sort out the sound quality and put some different shots in and the one I uploaded doesnt work for some reason, but I will sort it out on monday when I get back from Maribor.

Here is a link to an updated version with better sound and some crashes stuck in for good measure...

http://video.mpora.com/watch/Dnick1vP8/

I think thats an improvement on the previous version. The filming's all good and the editing generally good in my opinion.

I'm a bit confused tho, is this a 'teaser' and they'll be a 'trailer' to follow later, or is this the one short vid that advertises your forth coming film and you now sit back and wait for people to buy it?
Cos I'd say its a ok teaser but a very poor trailer.

Where I'm coming from on this is that the video itself says very little about what your film's about. So unless you know the background of it from another source its not very informative. I'll go as far as saying someone stumbling across the vid (and just watching it not reading anything else associated with it) could mistake it for a one off short video, because it doesn't tell you any different.
For example had it had some text somewhere in it say some like "A new MTB film, filmed in the UK, with X number of up coming UK riders, coming soon etc etc" then you'd be in doubt what it was about and promoting.

Hope that's constructive and useful.

much better that time round! alot clearer on mpora too! very well edited and nicely put together but as before 'variety is the spice of life' if its all just fat riding then its gona get a little bit samey!!

still not digging the music tho mate... Sorry

I though i made it obvious by calling it a teaser and having the description as 'some clips of the riders i have filmed with so far' but obviously not.. the films only coming out at the end of this year so its not in any way a trailer, the main reason i put it online was distributers and sponsors were asking for some sample footage, and i thought i would generate some interest so people have heard of it.  I'v now got a deal with nike and burgtec and am in the process of getting a distributer sorted so i will probably delete it all together and release the proper trailer in early september some time

blimey you lot are hard work!

Well I think it's looking f'ing fantastic!

I'll be buying it   ;)

Keep up the great work.

much better now

also i liked how you stayed out in Maribor made me lol  ;D

Good work Callum, it's looking really good, especially since it's your first attempt (as far as I know) at an MTB film!

well done on getting vod on pinkbike yesterday too

I saw this for the first time yesterday on pinkbike. My first thoughts were - Awesome! When's it coming out? I want to buy it!

Really like the feel of it, good filming, good riding, and I actually love the tune!

This is the kind of thing I want to watch.

Top job fella!

Got some good comments on the VOD as well.

It has to be out by the 1st of October at the latest as I'm off to Uni then!  If all goes to plan I will premier it at the last NPS at Carlton Bank

Callum

is brendan riding at your track in wales pete? The one me, George and the cardiff boys went up to ages ago...

not my track, al bonds track. its on the same hill though.

whats the name of the song on that teaser?

its looking sweet cant wait till the whole vid comes out :)

song is sinistapushaman- whats goin on

if you cant find it pm me;)

ahh ok, also nick (barnard) quite rightly spotted a bit of radyr on the f1rst trailer, when brendon goes off that berm/jump bit. Dunno what else they would have filmed there though...

that was brilliant  ;D, that crash looked realy bad !  :(

Thats awesome. And the music is quality too. Can't wait for the full video.

when will it be out

yeh id agre its actualy one of the only films that i would consider buying actualy i duno why it just had a nice fel to it althoug it is only a teaser.personaly from loking at it not knowing much about filming ,editing etc it loks as good as any other ive sen other tha realy high budget films(you know the ones)oh yeh and that crash didnt lok to pleasent at all.

Same here, it just had something that grabbed me,shame about the music and having seen the list of places you plan to shoot the variety should be covered.