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Re: Dislocated Shoulder, broken bone in joint. Redislocation?
« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2007, 10:57:10 AM »

What joint was it that you dislocated?  I've had 3 Acromioclavicular separations in the last 6months, dislocating the clavicle from the shoulder rather than the humerous from the main ball/socket joint.

I shattered my collar bone over a year and a half ago, and with all the other problems since I still don't have full ROM.  It's pretty gutting, but after a few months I did build up enough strength and movement to be able to ride and race again.

Did you opt for surgery or not?

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Re: Dislocated Shoulder, broken bone in joint. Redislocation?
« Reply #16 on: October 29, 2007, 11:08:50 AM »

I dislocated my shoulder and fractured a bit of the humerous.

Now my clavicle is subluxing from my sternum, physio said this is rare because of the strength of the ligaments holding the clavicle in place, these must have been stretched in the crash.

I wanted surgery but the NHS won't give you it until you have had at least 2 dislocations.
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Re: Dislocated Shoulder, broken bone in joint. Redislocation?
« Reply #17 on: October 29, 2007, 11:29:55 AM »

That sound harsh.  I fractured my humerous a few years ago and it wasnt pleasant.  I've had enormous problems with my shoulder since I crashed, and since the op to fix the clavicle.  the ligaments holding my clavicle in place are a bit of a mess apparently, and there's been inflammation preventing me from getting full movement since the op.

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Re: Dislocated Shoulder, broken bone in joint. Redislocation?
« Reply #18 on: October 29, 2007, 11:43:24 AM »

Yours sounds pretty bad to, ha you should of see the expression on my physio's face when I showed here my clavicle subluxing (you can really see it pop in and out) she went all squeamish, I said to her that face isn't giving me alot of confidence!

Where your ligaments damaged in the opp?

I broke my left clavicle in 4 places 3 years ago, I had to have it pinned plated and a wire put in to hold it down. I don't know what happened in surgery but I have lost 60% of my deltoid, this has made it very week in some motions... But it's ok I have got my right shoulder... Oh no wait, I've fooked that one now!!!

Got to laugh it off  Cheesy

 
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« Reply #19 on: October 29, 2007, 11:47:20 AM »

To be honest, ive got no idea what was damaged in the crash, and what was done in the op, I was in such a mess pre-op that I couldnt move my upper body, let alone my shoulder...so who knows!

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Re: Dislocated Shoulder, broken bone in joint. Redislocation?
« Reply #20 on: October 29, 2007, 15:24:14 PM »

that video looks nasty
if your not sure on doing it don't do it if you think it will just keep popping out of place then don't bother but it should just repair itself after a couple of months
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Re: Dislocated Shoulder, broken bone in joint. Redislocation?
« Reply #21 on: October 29, 2007, 15:42:35 PM »

that video looks nasty
if your not sure on doing it don't do it if you think it will just keep popping out of place then don't bother but it should just repair itself after a couple of months

Really?  And you know this how exactly?!  most of the posts ive seen here from you seem to give incredibly "definate" answers with no real proof.  These kinds of injuries very often dont just repair themselves.  Physio plays a huge part, as do several other things.

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Re: Dislocated Shoulder, broken bone in joint. Redislocation?
« Reply #22 on: October 29, 2007, 15:53:20 PM »

that video looks nasty
if your not sure on doing it don't do it if you think it will just keep popping out of place then don't bother but it should just repair itself after a couple of months

Really?  And you know this how exactly?!  most of the posts ive seen here from you seem to give incredibly "definate" answers with no real proof.  These kinds of injuries very often dont just repair themselves.  Physio plays a huge part, as do several other things.

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Yeah physio is very important to tighten the ligaments again, that's why I was gutted when she told me to back off the physio, due the clavicle subluxing thing I was a bit annoyed, as it is getting all stiff again now  Undecided
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Re: Dislocated Shoulder, broken bone in joint. Redislocation?
« Reply #23 on: November 18, 2007, 16:31:56 PM »

think i might chip in on here as i'm in  the same boat, done it about 11/12 (lost count) times in 2 and a half years i think, got the docs to put it in the first few but after bout the 6th got sick of waiting in A+E so started doing it my self, its come out from falling over, crashing the bike, lifting weights, dancin when drunk and slippin down the stairs etc. its now got to the point that it doesnt even have the chance to recover before it comes out again, i know the surgery would benefit me but the recovery time seems so long, and that when its healing, it seems that you can do absolutley nothing? any tips or anything u have?

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Re: Dislocated Shoulder, broken bone in joint. Redislocation?
« Reply #24 on: November 18, 2007, 19:26:26 PM »

Do some weights specific to:

Trapezius
Triceps
Biceps
Pectoral
Deltoid
Rhomboid

What you are doing here is compensating for the tendon and ligament damage with muscle strength.

You are trying to bulk up so lifting heavier weights are key.

At the gym, speak to the people working there. They'll tell you specific exercises.

It's working for me.
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Re: Dislocated Shoulder, broken bone in joint. Redislocation?
« Reply #25 on: November 19, 2007, 10:46:25 AM »

Thanks for the info!

I used to do a lot of weight training prior to my injury, but my shoulder is still very weak at the moment, I can train the biceps/triceps, but it is to weak to train any other surrounding muscles, I have just started using the therabands so that might push me up to a level where I can start using weights again.

My Physio said I sustained a lot of muscle damage as well as ligament  Undecided

How long did everyone's take to recover, mine seems to be taking ages (it's been 18 weeks so far for me)

Olie - It sound like you do need the surgery if it is happening that often, have you seen a specialist for advice? If you continue to dislocate it all the time you will do some permanent damage and it could be a real mess in the future, most people I have spoke to who have had the opp say it is as good as new after 6-8 months, ok it's along time but worth it in the long run don't you think.
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« Reply #26 on: November 19, 2007, 11:04:37 AM »

You're never too weak to do weights. Just start 1KG or something.

These are the names of the exercises that you should be looking at doing, according to the guys in the gym where I go.

I have also included the number of sets, reps and weights (KG) (in that order!)

Seated Shoulder Press: 2, 6, 10.


Seated Dumbbell Shoulder Punch: 2, 6, 10.

Small Picture (squint!). Arms move vertically up then vertically down.

Rear Flys: 2, 8, 7.

Like this, but use dumbbells and have seat tilted slightly forward to make it harder.

Onearm Rows: 2. 8, 25.


It is seriously important to do this looking into a mirror you have to keep your shoulders level, only moving your arms.

Hope this helps more.
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Re: Dislocated Shoulder, broken bone in joint. Redislocation?
« Reply #27 on: November 19, 2007, 11:21:55 AM »

Thanks again Albal, great work!

I will do rear flyers and rows, I just have to limit my range to max 90 degrees at the moment to stop my SC joints subluxing but when that's sorted I shall increase number of exercises.

I am doing seated press-ups which are like dips, this is meant to help stabilise the SC joint.

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Re: Dislocated Shoulder, broken bone in joint. Redislocation?
« Reply #28 on: November 19, 2007, 11:46:49 AM »

You probably wont want to life the same weights that I am doing, too. They're pretty tough going. I would consider my shoulder reasonably stable and I feel like these are pushing it to it's limit.

Maybe half them or quarter them to give you a more comfortable lifting feeling.
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Re: Dislocated Shoulder, broken bone in joint. Redislocation?
« Reply #29 on: November 23, 2007, 09:49:53 AM »

QUESTION - Say I get my shoulder quite strong again, will I be able to give it a reasonable knock, say a small crash, or is it very likely to happen even if the impact was not directly on the shoulder?

Any ppl got there shoulder strong and stable solely by physio?
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