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Re: UK Bike Park/Torico DH Series '08
« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2007, 12:58:58 PM »

Will the series carry any BCF ranking points?
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Re: UK Bike Park/Torico DH Series '08
« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2007, 16:28:56 PM »

It's quite likley one of our first races next year will carry points, but thats not definate, we'll let you know as soon as we have the whole series mapped out.  Smiley

     
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Re: UK Bike Park/Torico DH Series '08
« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2007, 22:16:34 PM »

so whee would the enduro dh run? would it be a newly built course? or interlink a load of the current trails. next year sounds awesome hopefully me and some mates will make every race Smiley
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Re: UK Bike Park/Torico DH Series '08
« Reply #18 on: December 14, 2007, 09:37:53 AM »

The enduro would be an XC ride, but with the emphasis on techy riding, not plowing round the edge of a field, ala mountain mayhem and the like. The course is being scouted every wednesday on a night ride (running from torico at 6pm) and gradually being worked out. It's likely that some of the DH tracks from the park will be used, with chicken runs for some of the more difficult obstacles. At the moment they're looking at a 10 or so mile lap (Ben can confirm or deny, as he's the one with the garmin!!). Part of the track is a MX enduro, so it's already nicely bermed singletrack, but with a bit of tweaking and trail clearing, it should work out around the 80% singletrack mark, which will be about spot on.
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Re: UK Bike Park/Torico DH Series '08
« Reply #19 on: December 14, 2007, 11:52:44 AM »

yep as ali said the route is still being tweaked but so far we are pretty confident that we have a pretty cool track. singletrack is the name of the game with plenty of places for passing on climbs and loads of opportunites for harder faster lines with optional chicken route. If you want to come along on a wednesday, give me a call at the shop.
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Re: UK Bike Park/Torico DH Series '08
« Reply #20 on: December 14, 2007, 18:45:51 PM »

I'm not tree-magnet!?? Roll Eyes

But they (who ever it is......) have it all spot on for that option, it's a great course!

Need to get back out  on the wednesday nighters!!
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Re: UK Bike Park/Torico DH Series '08
« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2008, 23:16:30 PM »

hi guys, ive not raced before, but would like to start.

im not brilliant i just want to race for fun against some good riders rather than my mates, is this series ok for a beginner like me to enter.

cheers guys
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Re: UK Bike Park/Torico DH Series '08
« Reply #22 on: January 08, 2008, 00:37:52 AM »

Yeah mate, bike park is proper chilled out. I did my first race there and had a wicked time.
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Re: UK Bike Park/Torico DH Series '08
« Reply #23 on: January 26, 2008, 18:20:29 PM »

Whats up with the race prices going up even more now?

If you dont mind me saying, its not very 'grassroots' when the prices go up  to such a high level.
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Re: UK Bike Park/Torico DH Series '08
« Reply #24 on: January 26, 2008, 21:44:20 PM »

What's your definition of Grass roots??

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Whats up with the race prices going up even more now?
 

Just to clarify, the entry fee for racing this year is £30.......... £25 last year, sounds like you've been told there's another increase, it's just a fiver on last year.  Smiley



 
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Re: UK Bike Park/Torico DH Series '08
« Reply #25 on: January 27, 2008, 11:28:40 AM »

Having never raced before I was really shocked to see how much it costs, UK BP races are on a par with other race series as far as cost is concerned though. Racing is expensive but if that's what you want to do then you have to pay for it!
I don't drink anymore so racing no doubt shall become my new G&T! Grin
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Re: UK Bike Park/Torico DH Series '08
« Reply #26 on: January 27, 2008, 11:33:01 AM »

What's your definition of Grass roots??

My definition of grassroots  would be 'affordable racing so as to encourage pople to try out racing'

basically what i was trying to say is, Why the need for the increase in cost of 22% for a weekend over last year?    or, What changes over last year justify the price rise, e.g timing equipment?

I do very much like the idea of the BSX race at the event, cracking idea.

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Re: UK Bike Park/Torico DH Series '08
« Reply #27 on: January 27, 2008, 16:31:09 PM »

Ok cool, I asked what your idea of grass roots was so I could better answer you question.

And this is for pretty much everyone.

Grass roots racing doesn't necessarily mean 'cheaper' racing . . . . . .grass roots, for us, means that it's not part of some big organisation or movement, there's no corporate or government sponsor or funding involved, if there were it's possible that we could offer subsidised entry to attract new riders, which would be ideal!

The park is run by riders to create a great riding venue (out of a steep muddy hill) that funds itself, not some non rider looking to make a few quid or a business interested solely in profit. We love riding and want to build a cool place for all to enjoy, when it's done it'll be a great asset for the UK MTB scene. Since there's no one round here with a spare £100,000 kickin' about, we've got to work for it.

Racing is not really a winner as far as making cash goes, if you noted down all intailed as a business proposal (and don't forget all those volunteers/marshall's etc), you'd get laughed out of The Dragon's Den!  Grin
We do it for the park, the good of the sport and simply cos it's good fun!! (This is the 'good business' side of it which we try to bear in mind when we're lugging stuff about ankle deep in mud sometimes)  
I've no idea of the costs incurred for organisers at other venues, but for us this is what it costs to ensure the event is a success. But if they run a good event then you can be sure they've worked for it, so support them all the way!

For those who've not been to a race (or one of ours) you get,

A taped race course (obviously  Smiley )
A race plate.
Marshalls (volunteers yes, but they get fed and a free race entry for whoever)
Timing!!
Prizes.
Race insurance.
Uplift (for practice and timed runs using bike specific trailers)
Paramedics to stick you back together.
Loos.
Parking.
And a load of people running around making sure you have a good day out!

What makes everything possible at the park is the Uplift service, we don't operate 15ton military lorries just to make us feel butch! these are the only things (within financial limitations) that can cope with the uplift track (which btw we have to rent per event and resurface at times £££) without falling apart after a few trips. The skilled work that goes into these trucks is unbelievable!
On the road Paul tells me fuel economy runs at a heady 6mpg, up a 30 degree incline loaded with trailer 40 riders and bikes, probably it's a little less  Undecided

When you fill up your car next try and remember how much fuel was per litre a year ago.

They'll be tons of new stuff at the park to do by the summer, all paid for by it's riders, worth the 22% for sure!

As SJ said the extra will mean different things to different people it depends on your situation I guess...


But that's what it takes to make it happen at this venue and that's why racing has gone up to £30   Smiley
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Re: UK Bike Park/Torico DH Series '08
« Reply #28 on: January 27, 2008, 17:52:45 PM »

TBH Ben, it is a little price increase, and i had sooooo much fun last year at the three races i attended (one as a marshal, and 2 racing) that i think its worth a further £5 ontop. And the fact the money goes pretty much straight back into the park to improve upon what is already (personally) one of the best riding spots in the UK is great.

I define grass roots as an opportunity for someone to start racing. The level at UK bikepark is high enough to challenge most riders (You and i included Ben) yet offer up and coming riders a chance of a good result (For example that 10yr old last year), £30 for a days racing and uplift is only a £5 less than an uplift at Cwmcarn, but we also have to pay toll (£5) and petrol (£30) to ride there!!

(Not having a go at you buddy, love you really)

Finally! If 'mums cakes' where advertised more, then there would be no need for anyone to pay race entry!!!!!! Grin
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Re: UK Bike Park/Torico DH Series '08
« Reply #29 on: January 27, 2008, 21:33:07 PM »

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i had sooooo much fun last year at the three races i attended 

Dressed as a cow...quite a fast one too!  Grin

Anyway, back to the races, forgot to mention for the six races we're holding this year we'll be running six different tracks! The three from last year and three new combinations.

There's almost a myriad of different ways to the bottom of the park now and we'll be linking the best of them for your courses.

So guess away!

Dark side? Free fall?....... The stupid steep track?  Grin



 
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