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Re: Claim adverts
« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2007, 18:42:15 PM »

Well before, yes, quite a lot had left my own pocket to keep this place running, but when we did the relaunch we sat down thought about it and now we are running things a bit more "proper" and the Ads are paying for the Majority of the costings, which is nice, finally! Smiley
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« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2007, 21:56:09 PM »

What adverts? Wink

Got to love firefox
Its people like you that don't help fund sites that shoudl be banned. Indeed, I have the code to do just that...

So people, shall I ban freeloaders?
No.
People should have the right not to have see annoying ads if the go the lengths to stop them. Some of them can be so annoying with all the flashing (not like the ones on here). Imagine if you're on a slow connection how much rubbish you'd have to download, why should people pay to download advents.
(I don't use an adblocker and I'm not on a slow connection.)

I can see why you'd want people not block the ads cos you get money for them, but whats the difference between people not seeing them and people not clicking them. The sort of people who go to the lengths to block ads are never gonna click one anyway so no loss.

Out of interest can the code you're on about actually detect adblocking? cos I read some idiot blocked Firefox users from his site cos it had the ability to block ads.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2007, 22:06:01 PM »

People should have the right not to have see annoying ads if the go the lengths to stop them. Some of them can be so annoying with all the flashing (not like the ones on here). Imagine if you're on a slow connection how much rubbish you'd have to download, why should people pay to download advents.
(I don't use an adblocker and I'm not on a slow connection.)
Firstly, Google's ads are light to start with, and if they detect you are on a slow connection, you get a different lightweigt ad set anyway.

But, to the point. You say people should have the right not to see ads, but why? Its not their site, they don't have any rights to it. Sure, SDH is its members, but the ads pay for the site, without them, like members, no site. Its a compromise we all live with. Why should some people get to freeload?

No, perhaps we could do a Singletrack cover-a-like. We can easily disable adverts for a paid member group.

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I can see why you'd want people not block the ads cos you get money for them, but whats the difference between people not seeing them and people not clicking them. The sort of people who go to the lengths to block ads are never gonna click one anyway so no loss.
Not true. Go read up on AdSense Smiley
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Out of interest can the code you're on about actually detect adblocking? cos I read some idiot blocked Firefox users from his site cos it had the ability to block ads.  Roll Eyes
Do I look that stupid? (Oi! Cheeky! Wink )Yes, code exists that if works such that if an ad is blocked the site will fail to load. It doesn't detect browser (other than to load the right javascript). I think I'd go the other way though, if the ad gets blocked I'd load more adds, in more annoying places, by other methods that AdBlock won't block. Where is that devil smiley? Grin
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« Reply #18 on: December 04, 2007, 23:54:27 PM »

I'll be honest, it's only through sheer laziness that I havn't got my adblocker set up. I loathe and despise all the popup and noisy ads you get on crappy sites like Myspazz and MSN messenger thet get in the way of everything else.

Luckily you keep this place in good order so theres nothing to moan about I suppose...
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« Reply #19 on: December 05, 2007, 09:06:40 AM »

If they made such little money, then why keep them? Or is it the case of every little bit helps
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« Reply #20 on: December 05, 2007, 09:27:03 AM »

If they made such little money, then why keep them? Or is it the case of every little bit helps
It doesn't cost much to run SDH, what the adverts bring in covers costs as they are. The adverts are hardly in your face, indeed they are badly placed in terms of conversion etc. We may increase adverts in some sections (like Chill Zone) so we can afford to do new and fun things, but there are no firm plans yet. Be assured however, that we dislike adverts as much as the next guy, they are a necessary evil, so we'll always try and make sure they are not irritating or annoying.
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« Reply #21 on: December 05, 2007, 14:57:07 PM »

The adverts on this site are minimal, compared to all the other forums...

A few more couldn't hurt especially if it brings in more cash!
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« Reply #22 on: December 05, 2007, 15:08:00 PM »

Well i'm aiming to cover every round of the World Cup next year Tongue
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« Reply #23 on: December 05, 2007, 15:21:34 PM »

Well i'm aiming to cover every round of the World Cup next year Tongue

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« Reply #24 on: December 05, 2007, 15:24:50 PM »

Newp.... still gotta come up with some kind of plan!
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« Reply #25 on: December 05, 2007, 19:38:33 PM »

What adverts? Wink

Got to love firefox
Its people like you that don't help fund sites that shoudl be banned. Indeed, I have the code to do just that...

So people, shall I ban freeloaders?

Yes ban freeloaders as you call them if you feel so strongly and you only want members that have to view adverts.

As a webdesigner and a manager for a bike shop I can see the use of adverts and the need for them but I totally disagree that a persons choice on the view they use to surf the internet should be forced.

When watching TV i will turn over during the adverts or go make a cup of tea; I will not sit and watch them for fear of being called a "freeloader".
So when I surf the internet as I have for around 20 years (albeit now rather more rapidly) I choose the size of text, the inclusions of adverts and the blocking of pop ups. The internet was born on freedom of information not forced viewing of adverts.

So please if the SDH RULES state you MUST NOT block adverts then go ahead and ban me for breach of rules. On the side of costs.........add the ability to donate via paypal or an address to send cheques and let the members support the place they love.
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Re: Claim adverts
« Reply #26 on: December 06, 2007, 02:26:08 AM »


So please if the SDH RULES state you MUST NOT block adverts then go ahead and ban me for breach of rules.


The rules deffently dont say that Smiley
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« Reply #27 on: December 06, 2007, 09:12:35 AM »

I totally disagree that a persons choice on the view they use to surf the internet should be forced.
We would never force anyone to view adverts. We might change what people without adverts see, but then its their choice to see that view.
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« Reply #28 on: December 06, 2007, 19:13:59 PM »

If people are that bothered by viewing ads, then they would find a way to stop them (ask a friend, Google it, etc).

I'm not going to post here instructions/links how to do so, as I feel it would be very unfair (and certainly disrespectful) to SDH.

The fact that perhaps 98% of SDH users view the ads (or rather, the ad is displayed on-screen - whether they read it is another thing), shows that 98% are not too bothered by them, to warrant researching a method to block them.

Mods - do you get revenue per 'page impression' or 'click-through' (if you don't mind me asking - PM me if you want).   If it's the first, then I will happily whitelist SDH to my blocker..

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« Reply #29 on: December 06, 2007, 19:25:34 PM »

Got to love the made up figure of 98%... Xiphon adblockers that come freely available with most if not all browsers were developed a long time ago. Mainly used to stop the annoying pop up adverts.

Seriously though if the adverts are there to make money for sdh then please consider adding the ability to donate via paypal.

Pretty sure the adblocker I use via Firefox simply hides them from view thus pleasing me and pleasing those that rely on the ad being loaded into the browsers cache.
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