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VAT on races.
« on: April 21, 2008, 21:52:10 PM »

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I've just had a meeting with an HM Revenue and Customs VAT expert and he has informed me that I have to charge VAT at 17.5% on all entry fees. So from immediate effect all entry fees are rising by 17.5%. I don't get the extra money, it goes to HMRC Revenue and Customs so please don't complain to me. I can only claim back a tiny portion of this as most race expenses are VAT exempt, like Buses, Medics and Marshals
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« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2008, 22:00:38 PM »

Greedy bloody tax man!!

Surely they should help promote sport, Instead, they're taxing it!!! Arghhhhhh!
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« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2008, 22:05:01 PM »

Bummer Sad Thats a pain in the arse. Oh well, just gonna have to deal with it.

Greedy bloody tax man!!

Too bloody right!!
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« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2008, 22:07:23 PM »

f'ing rediculous just to help pay for benefit fraud etc
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« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2008, 22:23:35 PM »

Value Added Tax, but wheres the value?
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« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2008, 23:20:08 PM »

didn't know Jason was registered for VAT.. ah well... he needs to de-register quick! Wink
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« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2008, 06:43:55 AM »

f'ing rediculous just to help pay for benefit fraud etc

Please grow up and learn the f'ing facts, I've had enough of daily mail economics on this forum.

If we've gotta pay, we've gotta pay, it's unfortunate but there's nowt we can do about it.
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« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2008, 08:47:49 AM »

jusy curious, is this added to entries from now on? or will we have to pay the extra 17.5% on existing entries, i;ve enter gethin race boht days, did that few weeks back, will i now have ot pay abit more? or will it not affect existring enteries?

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« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2008, 08:59:16 AM »

£65 seems a little steep for a weekends racing don't you think? - students and the younger riders are going to be really up against it especially as this new raise (by nearly a fifth )is going to filter down to practice days as well ?
The Cearsws and Pearce cycles don't seem to be so much IIRC ??
"I can only claim back a tiny portion of this" - so overall there is a net gain for the organizer, as even though a small proportion it may be they can still claim back part of the 17.5% fee increase meaning more income at the end of the tax year.
Why not lower prices to reflect the amount you can claim back to minimise the impact on the customer? - just a thought and no I am no tax expert but do have a HND in Accounting & Finance(a long time ago mind!!)
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« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2008, 09:05:07 AM »

i think its going to be added to practrive days and race days, it says '17.5% on all enteries' so guessing that means practice days?

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« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2008, 10:18:36 AM »

have to say i agree. had intended to do 5 rounds this year. thought 57 was a bit steep. but 67 is a joke.

2 races would pretty much cover ferry and fuel to les gets.

think ill go look elsewhwere if this VAT lark sticks.
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« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2008, 10:52:27 AM »

How can it cost more to race a dragon weekend than a national weekend..... That i don't understand!

Becoming VAT registered is not a choice once your turnover exceeds £67'000 / year, and that is a rolling year, not from one fixed date to the next, so therefore there is no choice in the matter.
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« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2008, 10:57:47 AM »

5 practice runs on a sat and maybe 4 runs including race runs on a sunday

wheres the value?

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« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2008, 11:12:53 AM »

5 practice runs on a sat and maybe 4 runs including race runs on a sunday

wheres the value?



this just going with what people are saying it'll be about £67 for a race weekend

thats £7.44 per run, so even if you do things cheep, stay at a camp site, and allow say £30 for fuel to get there (depending where you come from, more for me down in portsmouth, i'll do a tank of fuel, which is £53 when i filled up this morning)

camp site say £5 a night, for the friday and saturday night, thats a total of £98 for a weekend, not including food, drink, spares etc

thats £10.88 a run!!!!!!

a practice day just on entry alone say you get 8 runs in, a pracitce day will be prob around the £30 mark, thats £3.75 a run! not adding fuel, food, drink blah blah

sorry thats mad!
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« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2008, 12:30:10 PM »

this does suck quite a bit, cant really afford it but if thats what we have to pay then thats what it is :/
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