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Re: Why full face helmets are daft.
« Reply #120 on: July 18, 2008, 15:16:49 PM »

So it's stood up to a few crashes? I'm impressed, it doesn't look like it would. How flexible is that chin guard; I've never held one personally. I'm guessing you're more likely to give a balanced answer than most reading this thread hehe.

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Re: Why full face helmets are daft.
« Reply #121 on: July 18, 2008, 15:36:57 PM »

does anyone do DJ in a full face?? i would see it being more advantageous when you crash as you aint going to ruin your pretty face  :'(


thought i would ask here than starting a new thread when this is already about full faces.
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Re: Why full face helmets are daft.
« Reply #122 on: July 18, 2008, 15:51:25 PM »

Odilinksi:
forgive me, I'm useless when it comes to anything techincal (even a 2-piece helmet..)

it holds up surprisingly well, and though the guard is made up of two pieces (joined together at the tip) it's pretty sturdy, especially from straight on. It certainly does flex a bit though if you put one of the sides between your finger and thumb and bend.

The one thing that makes you worry a wee bit is because it's attached by four screws, it makes you wonder if the thing would ever just shear off the entire chin guard if you ever gave it a proper whang..
but I'm pretty sure if I ever subjected it to that kind of force, I should be wearing a proper full-face already.. Smiley
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Re: Why full face helmets are daft.
« Reply #123 on: July 18, 2008, 16:19:22 PM »

I just concluded that my chin is probably stronger hehe. I wear a piss pot.

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« Reply #124 on: July 18, 2008, 18:27:31 PM »

I just concluded that my chin is probably stronger hehe. I wear a piss pot.

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i don't think that your chin is that solid




This guy was wearin a helmet without a chin guard on it and look at his face dindt stop bleedin 4  1.5 hours

i wouldnt want my chin endin up like that Sad Sad
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Re: Why full face helmets are daft.
« Reply #125 on: July 18, 2008, 18:51:07 PM »

Yeah but you reckon a Met Parachute would stop that?

Remember that it's not the full-face as an entity that I am questioning; simply the Met Parachute. But as I said, I know nothing.

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Re: Why full face helmets are daft.
« Reply #126 on: July 19, 2008, 20:04:10 PM »

you dont have the lack of oxygen problems if u use a good lid..........................TROY LEE DESIGNS:Smiley
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Re: Why full face helmets are daft.
« Reply #127 on: July 20, 2008, 16:50:00 PM »



this is what happens if you ride downhill with a piss pot!

i bought my full face after this incident. i always wear my helmet now. whenever i go on rides now it feels like every tree stump is trying to trip me up.
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Re: Why full face helmets are daft.
« Reply #128 on: July 20, 2008, 20:14:04 PM »

hmmm... that looks like it might have stung a little?
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Re: Why full face helmets are daft.
« Reply #129 on: July 20, 2008, 20:33:15 PM »

i have always had mixed feelings about full faces, my thoughts have alays been that if the mouth guard bit stays intackt on a crash that hits it then it would surely transfer the pressure onto your neck, and if it does crumple then is there any point in having it, is it still better than nothing?
i quite like the troy lee open things, good protection around the head and more comfortable,
just my thoughts though
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« Reply #130 on: July 20, 2008, 21:43:14 PM »

Im supreised WC riders haven't taken their peaks off when winning can be missed by 0.1 seconds or less.. If you miss out a place by 0.001 then you would have got it without a peak.. But you would look like a retard
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Re: Why full face helmets are daft.
« Reply #131 on: July 20, 2008, 22:01:57 PM »

i have always had mixed feelings about full faces, my thoughts have alays been that if the mouth guard bit stays intackt on a crash that hits it then it would surely transfer the pressure onto your neck, and if it does crumple then is there any point in having it, is it still better than nothing?

I think the pressure is taken by the cheek guards - as your face moves forward the cheek guards take most of the force.
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« Reply #132 on: July 21, 2008, 09:46:10 AM »



this is what happens if you ride downhill with a piss pot!

i bought my full face after this incident. i always wear my helmet now. whenever i go on rides now it feels like every tree stump is trying to trip me up.

see guys wear a full face and u will avoid this
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Re: Why full face helmets are daft.
« Reply #133 on: July 21, 2008, 15:30:29 PM »

I think you’re staring from a fundamentally flawed assumption “Pslide”, that being, current MTB full facers aren’t designed for DH riding which of course they are, and it has been/still is an evolving design process… 

The TLD D2 has been the example pointed to over and over, but other helmets all share common features, primarily increased enclosure of the head, a structurally integrated chin guard specifically designed to absorb and dissipate frontal impact and a visor (serving whatever purpose people think, I always thought it was meant to help shade your eyes from sun glare)…

But basically protection comes way above ventilation on most riders list of requirements from a helmet, if you can improve comfort without compromising protection your onto a winner, my suggestion would be stop drawing Nova body kits, and start actually thinking about airflow, there’s more to it than peppering every surface with holes…

Downhill racing has some quite horrible design requirements for a helmet, we cover the lump on top of our bodies where a lot of our thinking is done, and where we radiate more heat than any other area of our bodies in 2” thick insulation and then go for what is essentially a flat out sprint requiring lot’s of concentration, from a slowly cooking brain… finding a way of keeping your whole head cooler for just one run, or even a whole days riding would be a massive leap forwards…

Nobody’s saying current helmets are prefect but they certainly aren’t bad and the re-breathing issue to me seems to be an imagined one, sure it happens when your stationary, but above 4Mph I would imagine the airflow through the forward area of even the cheapest helmet means your exhaled breath is carried almost straight off…
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Re: Why full face helmets are daft.
« Reply #134 on: July 21, 2008, 19:01:44 PM »

isn't the visor meant to take the first blow when you crash??
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