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Topic: Truvativ Hammer Schmidt ? (Read 3610 times)
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Pslide
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Another thought. My old Heckler was not so good in the granny ring, cos the pivot was too high (middle ring, it was ace). Now on a standard ring setup that wasn't to much to problem 'cos when you were in the granny you tended to be winching your ass up a hill. However, which Hammer Schmitt you'd have granny chain line all the time, which would suck. I can see this being an issue for a lot of bikes. Will manufacturers start making suspension designed for only a 22/24 chainring? That would surely limit the market quite a lot!
This is a very good point. I thought the chainring was a 34/36, but it is a 22/24. Like Al says, most AM/FR suspensions are designed around the middle ring, so this design is going to create more pedal feedback / chain tug. Also, the planetary gears are in action when in the upper range, which is more widely used, and therefore the efficiency losses are going to be in the gear combinations we use most... |
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Rokin
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Personally, I think the 24/38 Freeride version sounds ideal. I mean, even if you don't ever use the 24 gearing and only stick to the 38, that's a fair amount extra clearance you're getting there. If I was building a DH bike from scratch then this would probably what I'd go for. And to be honest, with a reported 35 companies sharing an interest, it really does seem this will be an innovation worth investing in.
Now I'm going to daydream... If, as stated by Al, there's a 3 speed version floating round, how long would it take for a 5 or 6 speed one take to surface with say a 34-40T ratio? One SS cog on the rear hub, no derailleur to smash up, huge ground clearance, no chain slap. Awesome...
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how many of you ride with 2 gears up front? close to none  I think it is a great solution for Megavalanche. There are some uphill sections and hammerschmidt would be spot on for them. Just change it to 22-24 and pedal up, once you have done it, flip it back to "overdrive" and hammer down with your usual 36-38 sprocket. I think it is a brilliant idea, not sure whether I want to jump the bandwagon yet, but I still think there are many downhillers here that would make a good use of the "new" system. Unfortunately, $800 for that thing is just like a blow in your face, way too expensive if you ask me, but then, on the other hand, if you have a bike worth 3-4k (as many of those seen here are worth), another 400quid does sound reasonable. |
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thats a good point Al but it does mean that people like myself who have just bought new bikes without ISCG can't buy a set... another nail in the coffin! i think these are a good stepping stone to something better but these will most likely go the way of alot of other products... ie the bin!
What makes you say that? A LOT of frames now run ISCG and if Hammerschmidt is seen by the companies to be a viable alternative to a mech and rings system then companies will start fitting the required mounts, the same happened with disc brakes... I can see sealing being an issue but I'd like to think that Sram would have that covered, the issue Al mentioned is an obvious one but I suppose it's not anything to do with Sram, you'd like to think that the companies that have said they're interested in using it would have thought it through wouldn't you?! I see it as a good progression to be honest, not really DH relevent but for the AM lot it looks logical. Rootes the reason i'm saying it rootes is only because i got my patriot 2 months ago and don't plan on changing it for a few years. i'm pretty sure that there are a few folk in this boat and that makes the whole idea irrelevant for the likes of us, cant use it so wont buy it! there are also a certain percentage of riders who have older bikes and don't pan on changing for a while! it might not be everyone but its certainly enough to be a noticeable chunk of the potential market! The suspension issue that Al said is definitely something to consider too! i see it as a good idea but it's only going to be viable for a certain percentage of riders and that will hurt its move into the mainstream market, that added to the humongous cost and sealing worries could see it fail before its even started! i suppose I'm just a cynic at heart mate and am left unconvinced of how it will do in the long term but i hope to be proved wrong! we'll have to wait and see as quite frankly i shouldn't be jumping to conclusions without having at least read a full test and real life opinions of everyday riders. |
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