Hey just wondering if my ridings would benifit from maxing out on the legal white stuff, I do realise its for muscle growth but it does also come for prolonged endurance (so it says)

I hit the stuff for a while when i was off the bike injured doing weights but with the muscle increase my running suffered so much I had to come off it. I didnt even try riding.

Does anyone on her use it for riding?? or is there a legal in between I can use for muscle building and endurance training??

Cheers.

I started using creatine along with other supliments around a year ago.
What i do is, I use "NO Explode" before going to the gym, Strait after ive been I have a creatine shake ("Muscletech Cell-tech hardcore") then 30 mins after that A protein shake ("Muscletech Nitro-tech hardcore")
And just to help my stamina i do a 4 mile run both before then after going to the gym.
I do this all through the week and sunday i rest.

But thats only for when im working out. I dont use it for riding.
Although Because your building alot of muscle then it will improve your biking, Wether it be endurance or pure strength.

Dont have a go at me for being 15 and train the way i do;
Ive done alot of reaserch into it and what not. 

Sorry if i havn't explained/Answered what you need to know. But basically, Yeah sure, I dont see why not. It will have at least some sort of positive affect on your riding.
And if you want when i gett back later i'll explain better if needed.

Chris

Creatine in good forms is good for you..

Cheap stuff is pretty much pointless.. You really need to understand your body, training, recovery and what you are hoping to achieve to understand what it can do for you and your sport.

It is used in football yes and rugby and other sports such as sprinting. But they used very refined versions of it. ie 60pounds for small doses not the 10quid gets you loads.


Before using stuff like this and particularly if you are young speak to someone in the know! mxfitness are one of the best around and deal with similar sports on a day to day basis!

Are the dangers really that bad tho?? The only bad point im aware of is constant dehidration and long term Liver damage if your not drinking enough.

Im back on it now as well, My training has increased and im lifting more, No chance to ride for a while so have to test it when im back in the UK.

Fingers crossed 

and thats quoted from a guy who would be my first port of call in any nutritional based training question. A respected endurance cyclist(and who might pop up in this thread if hes about )  and a man who knows about these thigns ...(and a tip ...its not paul/chilled)

another thing , by saying endurance on the packet they dont mean endurance in the sence that id say endurance like eg a 200k ride ... they mean the ability to push more reps into a set.....

Yea I do too,

I think people might be getting the wrong idea im doing weight training hence the creatine and i was wondering if it would benifit or hinder my riding i dont race by the way.

Thats because it is a supplement developed mainly for the body building scene.

What Creatine does is cause all your muscular cells to retain water.

Fist myth...This isn't water retention like people think of when talking about Steroids. That is water retention under the skin.

Hydrated muscle cells (what creatine promotes) are essentially a more anabolic environment, this combined with the fact that the chemistry involved in the cells with the use of creatine (to do with phosphate changes/drop offs in the ATP energy cycle...can't be arsed to go into it) means that you get a more swollen look to your muscles when saturated with creatine.


It increases "pump" because of this....which is not what you want for riding.

The only cyclists likely to benefit from Creatine are those that have a lot of explosive action needed over a short burst e.g 4x riders or short duration indoor velodrome riders.

DH riders may benefit getting out of the gate too.

Anyone doing any endurance/distance riding should steer clear of creatine. It makes you prone to dehydration which can cause severe cramps of your muscles.....and what is a muscle that gets worked hardest other than your quads when cycling distances....YOUR HEART. This is also why it is important to keep well hydrate when supplementing with creatine and to avoid alchohol (because it dehydrates you and puts a strain on your liver which is already under strain processing the creatine you are chucking down your throat each day).

If you are a 4x rider/ velodrome then Creatine may very well help you.

One thing I have found with creatine is it is only effective for a short duration i.e
 4 weeks or so. It is good for getting over a hurdle/low spot in your training sometime.

But that said it can cause low spot as you need to cycle it and when you come off it you can often feel lethargic.

It seems to be less effective each cycle you do too....I Havn't used it in years and I may very well do some this summer and see how effective it is after a huge lay off....I remember my first trial of the supplement gave some pretty decent results.

There is many types of creatine on the market, a lot of it nearly all of it is just market hype and bull s**t.

What is for certain is timing and nutrition to make your body "up take" it is essential.

An insulin spike whilst ingesting it makes it a much more effective supplement which is where some of the over marketed very expensive tubs actually work well as you are paying for an expensive tub of sugar with the creatine you are buying which gives you that insulin spike....expensive sugar though "Muscle Tech Cell Tech anyone"  .....Rokin and Strafer will get that 

If you want to use it and get results from it then the best bet on a budget is to get a decent microganised creatine and take it with a big glass of sugary drink like grape juice straight after a workout. Preferably prior to your protein shake/recovery meal etc.

If you have cash then the best stuff on the market in my opinion is made by a complany called SANS and the product is called V12 turbo. It's a Di and Tri creatine malate salt solution mixed with some other chemicals that aid in transportation (uptake into the muscle cells). Use that stuff mixed with grape juice and you get some serious SHORT TERM size and strength gains.

Paul

Personally I think it comes down to whether you can be bothered to drink gallons of water a day and forever need a piss. Because if you don't you get nasty headaches - and over the longer term it's not good for your kidneys.