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Re: do policemen have it in for us bikers?
« Reply #30 on: July 18, 2008, 19:51:49 PM »

most police are pretty sorted (in my area- "sunny" milton keynes) and have a couple of mates who're on the force but.......

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bloody PSCO's get on my t1ts. i mean, what's the point of them? you'd be better off giving a granny a direct mobile line to the control centre and give her a tin of mace, for what it's worth. i've seen many a situation that could have been solved with a bit of talking between the two parties (i've also seen similar circumstances handled by a proper copper) but the meter maid has made the situation worse and in one instance even got his pepper spray out, waving it around like a maniac!

can't we get proper police(wo)men out on the beat any more instead of having to resort to some half arsed effort who doesn't even have the power to arrest someone (ok, they DO have the power to arrest someone but it's on a par with you or me attempting a citizen's arrest) or even detaining someone?

spleen vented thank you!  Grin

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« Reply #31 on: July 19, 2008, 08:45:19 AM »

haha nice rant there, i'm not far from good old MK, loads of the oficers there now ride around on GTs with rockshox darts

"state of the art" comes to mind  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #32 on: July 19, 2008, 09:25:30 AM »

The police are sound with people riding through town and on the pavement in plymouth. Only once have i been asked to get off, by a community officer person.
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« Reply #33 on: July 19, 2008, 10:18:58 AM »

The police are sound with people riding through town and on the pavement in plymouth. Only once have i been asked to get off, by a community officer person.
Same here, only ever been told by a Fake, one time a real one was babysitting and I'd jumped off when I saw them coming and he said ''you did the right thing getting off, I personally don't have a problem with you riding on the pavements''
You should have seen the look the fake gave him, she was not happy.
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« Reply #34 on: July 19, 2008, 11:04:47 AM »

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(ok, they DO have the power to arrest someone but it's on a par with you or me attempting a citizen's arrest)

"Please stand still while we wait for the real police, sir!" *run off*.

Most cops from my trials riding days were alright, they were just glad we werent drunk or off our tits on drugs, and a fair few took quite an interest in the riding too. Best one was a PCSO marching up to me and demanding me to get off my bike (i was sitting on it outside tesco, about 10 feet from the bike racks), and when i asked him why he said he didn't have to tell me, and kept telling me to get off, When i finally gave up questioning him and got off, he told me to stop trying to be smart, then informed me that "sitting astride your bicycle counts as riding, and this is the pavement. Riding on the pavement is illegal".

Also, riding on the "pavement" means the area must be adopted by the local authority as highway under a section 38 agreement, and you can get hold of plans showing the extent of adoptable highway with the freedom of information act from your local council (they usually have a dept that deals with issuing things for FOI purposes). Always useful information in a lot of spots as a fair bit of it is probably privately owned. Just dont get cocky with your new found information or the cops will do you for something else.
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Re: do policemen have it in for us bikers?
« Reply #35 on: July 20, 2008, 10:09:46 AM »

ok, a little off topic but had some dealings with the police last night and they were pretty sorted.

on the way back from the shops, i noticed that there were some oiks hanging around my housemate's mate's car.
cue: them shutting said car door and walking off and me shouting at them. chase ensued but didn't manage to catch the little bastards (i was in my flip-flops which then evolved into my bare feet (kicked FF's off)). cops came round and were nice and polite and stuff. apparently they had the dog out and everything!

so, props to thames valley police! nice guys and they don't like chavs!  Grin
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Re: do policemen have it in for us bikers?
« Reply #36 on: July 21, 2008, 22:44:26 PM »

My justification for using this word was perhaps a little blinkered; I was thinking of the fitness requirements for the police force's new recruits when I wrote the post- you have to achieve 5.4 on the bleep test. Those of you who don't know what this means it is the average fitness of a 9 year old child- which I find slightly worrying as we entrust our safety in these people.

The bleep test is the easiest bit. If only you knew!

At the end of the day, they do their job. And paperwork? Yes it hampers them! Any idea how long it takes to arrest someone? 3 hours of paperwork. And if you arrest someone at the end of your shift, there's no "sorry, it's the end of my shift, somebody else can deal with you now". You deal with it. Bureaucracy isn't the word!
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Re: do policemen have it in for us bikers?
« Reply #37 on: July 21, 2008, 22:57:30 PM »

Been thinking about joining the police for a while now. what are the fitness requirements?
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« Reply #38 on: July 21, 2008, 23:26:20 PM »

Same here mate.

It's as he said, bleep test and I think some type of lifting/strength test.

Hardest bit is the interview, roleplays and test you have to take.
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« Reply #39 on: July 21, 2008, 23:28:51 PM »

Cardio and upper body strength it appears.

Yeh i figured talking people out of thjings could be quite a difficult thing to do.
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« Reply #40 on: July 21, 2008, 23:34:14 PM »

ONe of the briefs my mate had was that he had to walk into a room where a crazy man had touched up a woman, whos husband was about to deck him one.

You've got to go in and sort it out!
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Re: do policemen have it in for us bikers?
« Reply #41 on: July 22, 2008, 02:09:35 AM »

slightly OT....but the sheer uselessness of the police force is astounding. it may not be their fault but here goes...

Bike gets nicked Monday night from outside train station, under cctv.
I report to Surrey Police on Tuesday.
They pass it onto British Transport Police, as it was on station property, who do precisely nothing.
I give up hope of getting bike back.
Girlfriends brother mentions that a mate is selling a bike. From the description it sounds like my bike. We go check it out it. It is my bike.
Wanting to do it properly, I don't let on that I know its my stolen bike, as kid says he bought it off some scally (probably not true).
Ring Surrey Police, who say its unlikely they can do anything, despite me reporting a stolen bike matching the exact description less than a week previous, now less than mile from where it was nicked.
They say they have to pass it on to BTP, who have yet to do anything at all since they were told, and as they deal with public transport, not retrieving stolen goods, I doubt very much they will.

So, something of mine has been nicked, but by trying to follow the law and get it back properly nothing will happen....excellent. Time to deal with it myself I guess.

I don't know if this is down to red tape or what, but when I have been told off for littering by accident and riding on the pavement, it does seem a little silly. I don't mind being told off for something I shouldn't be doing, but you would expect this to apply to all areas, especially more serious crime. 
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Re: do policemen have it in for us bikers?
« Reply #42 on: July 22, 2008, 05:24:29 AM »

If it is with BTP it will likely be awaiting to be allocated to an officer. unfortunately, we can't drop everything because your bike has been stolen to deal with it straight away. and just because it appears to be under CCTV doesnt always mean it is, the amount that it broken/ pointing somewhere ridiculous etc is amazing, then getting hold of it from whoever owns the CCTV can be time consuming also.
Which station was it taken from?
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Re: do policemen have it in for us bikers?
« Reply #43 on: July 22, 2008, 10:13:09 AM »

Most police do seem pretty alright but as has been said you do get the odd a*se hole. The mention of the fitness etc of the police is what really annoys me as the whole thing has just been lowered to make it easy for the more politically correct people to get in. A mate of mine who works as an officer knows someone who failed the basic tests 3 times, was basically spoon fed the whole way through and was so bad that they took him off the beat and gave him a desk job as they wanted the minorities. My mate failed to get in first time because in the interview 'he didn't make enough of an issue on race'.
Police rant over.
And back to the main topic, thanks to the w*nker policeman who ticketed a mate of mine for riding on the pavement when he dodged out of the designated cycle path bit to avoid a pedestrian!
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Re: do policemen have it in for us bikers?
« Reply #44 on: July 22, 2008, 17:57:26 PM »

The police are sound with people riding through town and on the pavement in plymouth. Only once have i been asked to get off, by a community officer person.
Same here, only ever been told by a Fake, one time a real one was babysitting and I'd jumped off when I saw them coming and he said ''you did the right thing getting off, I personally don't have a problem with you riding on the pavements''
You should have seen the look the fake gave him, she was not happy.

to be honest mate, I Do object to people riding on the pavement, especially those people who are usually on street bikes who hop on and off it in front of your car asking to be run over, and those people who 'tut' when you dont move out of the way for them when you are walking on the FOOTpath. and before you say its too dangerous riding on the road, when im at uni i ride down the A38 every day at rush hour. ride on the road or on a cycle path.
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