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Caliper rebuild maybe?
« on: July 20, 2008, 11:45:09 AM »

Hi

got a bit of a problemo.

I bought a set of Hope brakes for 80 quid Cheesy front mono m4 and rear mono mini (black caliper and gold bore caps)

i have bled them but i sometimes have a problem with the rear when out riding. When i am constanly using it (like slightly holding the lever when going down a hill, that sort of thing) it heats up. with the heat, the pistons move in slightly and grip the disc, making it harrder to pedal. This carrys on until it gets reall yhard topedal and then i stop. when i lift the rear wheel up and spin it, it just stops straight away. i felt the caliper, and it was really hot.

I've bled it quite a few time, just to make sure any air in the system is out. Maybe if there is air in it, that would expand with the heat and cause it?

What can be done to resolve this problem?

Caliper rebuild?

I saw somewhere on this forum about bleeding, that there could be air behind the piston which does not get bled out?

i dunno :S


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Re: Caliper rebuild maybe?
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2008, 12:02:40 PM »

you can try a re-build....but there's some things that ay help to prevent heat....

Alignment of caliper
Pad Compound
Which brake fluid you use (DOT 5.1 has a high boiling point)
Braided hose, will help disperse heat
Phenolic pistons
A good bleed....

Few things to consider....also how much were u holding the lever?!
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« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2008, 12:49:42 PM »

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I've bled it quite a few time, just to make sure any air in the system is out. Maybe if there is air in it, that would expand with the heat and cause it?

the oil will also expand when it gets hot.
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« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2008, 17:21:25 PM »

i use 5.1 fluid, its got normal hose but i think one piston seems to be further out than the other, so that could mean its constantly rubbing on the disc?

is caliper rebuild hard?

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« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2008, 18:02:16 PM »

Take the wheel and pads out, squeeze the lever so that the pistons begin to move. If one moves and the other doesnt, that piston is 'lazy.' Get some cleaner (speed degreaser or disc cleaner etc) and apply to piston. This should free that piston up and hopefully sorting your problem.

As said above, check that your caliper is alligned.
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« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2008, 14:08:03 PM »

I'd rebuild the lever with new seals, push rod and copper washer. I had an E4 that wouldn't work as an open system, which after an hour of head scratching at Mayhem, Hope worked out was due to the lever having mismatched parts in (Ooops!).
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« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2008, 20:45:18 PM »

Yeah a rebuild sounds like a good idea. I had my e4 rebuilt by crc a couple of years ago, worked a treat after that. not sure if they still do brake rebuilds though.

On a different note, I had bought some 2nd c2's for £60 a while ago, the previous owner proudly told me they'd just had new adjusters. They were alright just riding around, but on the first hill they heated up really badly. The numpty had put c2 (closed) master cylinder topcaps on an o2  (open) calliper! Doh!  Wink
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« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2008, 11:32:53 AM »

If the piston is moving slowly or not at all it could be the seals. Its not rocket science to replace them, just bloody fiddly!
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« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2008, 12:08:25 PM »

personaly id say it sounds like its the fluid boiling up
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Re: Caliper rebuild maybe?
« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2008, 13:54:03 PM »

get some goodriches an a bigger rotor maybe it will disperse the heat better over a bigger area /
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« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2008, 19:05:46 PM »

simple...

piston seals have gone so pistons seize up and wont go back

new piston/seal kit
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« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2008, 21:42:15 PM »

over time, the dot fluid in your brakes will absorb moisture. this will effectively lower the boiling point of the dot fluid leading to over heating and brake fade/fluid expansion.

stripping the brake down and flushing all of the old fluid out and then re-bleeding the brake will possibly help you out.

whilst stripping it down its worthwhile putting in new seals and making sure that the seal seats are clear of crap too.

what size rotor do you run?
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