Hi all,
Im running a Kona Scrap for trail blazing and attacking drop offs and jumps. Getting more confident now and would like a full sus rig, tough as a brick shhhh house, that i can do some hard free riding and can pedal away to the next trail beter than my Kona. Looking around at full sus prices, they're all a bit steep, but seeing as im riding most days, I'd like to buy a bike to last for ever (with very little upgrading), so I'm going to go the whole hog and get it all in one.
Now, these 2 Orange ones are getting my attention. Looks to me the Patriot FR looks like the tough all rounder, but how will the Big-T turn out? I gues with a larger wheel base and more travel it will take the knocks better. Frame looks beefyer too. Will there be much difference on the trail?

Cheers, Dave

i have a patriot FR and its awsome! however big-T's are pretty rare as only 20 are made in a year (or so the hype goes)

i'd go for a patriot. Big T's are more heavy duty but less versatile. If you want a Dh bike go 224 otherwise Patriot.

However, Big ts are on sale in this months dirt, fairly hefty reduction too i think.

Patriots are fine, especially as a first susser! If you want to be able to pedal from trail to trail  aswell as being abel to shred at the trails... patriot.

i had a little test ride on a 08 patriot FR

they are a really nice big.... the 1 i had a go on was a little too big for me but it was still rather nippy on trails

cheers
paul

i couldnt find the big t on reduction anywhere either.

i think im settled on the patriot FR  for now.will be getting soonish