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Re: Seatpost problems
« Reply #15 on: July 23, 2008, 19:37:10 PM »

Tom, have you got any pictures?

I'm sure there'd be a way of getting it out, and you out of the s**t.

How good is your LBS?  No offence to them, I'm sure they know their bikes, but they may just not have the tools for such a job.

Heating as has been mentioned is probably not the best idea, as depending on the frame material it could have an adverse effect to the already heat treated frame, or at least wreck your paint.

Is there any of it to grab hold of, or is it dead flush with top of seat tube?

If there is anything to grab hold of, I'd try soaking the joint with plusgas overnight, then hold the frame secure and use some grips or something to try turning/pulling the post?  If there was anything sticking out you could get someone to weld a block to it, then try using a slide hammer?  Drill and tap the block, bit of studding, something heavy and some nuts?
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Re: Seatpost problems
« Reply #16 on: July 23, 2008, 19:53:30 PM »

try fitting an old quill stem into the seat post and tightening it up ... then twisting it .... (i dont know what diameter of hole we are working with here )

failing that id be constructing something with a set of L shaped prongs with the short ends pointing outwars , spring loaded in the middle to allow me to pull on it
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« Reply #17 on: July 23, 2008, 19:57:26 PM »

Woah Terry never knew it was that much.  It's a 31.6mm post my quill stem didn't fit but the shop I took it to tried one and it didn't budge.

Andy,
Theres nothing sticking out unfortunetly, they're pretty good, it went to an engineer that they knew and he's tried tapping the seatpost and then pulling it out but to no success, plusgas I don't reckon would work as it's wedged in.  I took it to work and they tried a slide hammer but to no avail Sad  Seems to be a case of trying to mill it out or something.  Someone recommended BETD.
TBH for £750 you'd expect it to not be in a condition like this, despite what frame it is.
No pictures as of yet it's in the shop still, I need to get it back so I can potentially send it to someone Sad
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Re: Seatpost problems
« Reply #18 on: July 23, 2008, 20:02:12 PM »

Fair enough mate, does sound pretty ruined!!

Trouble with anything expansion based like a quill stem is that to get enough expansion to grip, it's probably not helping the matter, by expanding the post in the tube.

If they've tried slide hammers, etc then maybe machinging is the best way.

If you get the frame setup on the bed so that the seat tube was vertical you could probably use a milling cutter to cut away most of the seatpost without too much bother, although depth could be an issue.  Then just leave a thin post that should pull out easilly enough.   
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Re: Seatpost problems
« Reply #19 on: July 23, 2008, 20:02:37 PM »

any chance of having a thread put into the seatpost and screwing something into and pulling it out?

please note i have NO knowledge of putting thread of that size into anything before people laugh ha ha
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« Reply #20 on: July 23, 2008, 20:04:38 PM »

I think tom said they'd already tried that.

Plus at the thickness of the average seat post, I doubt you'd get enough purchase for any real pulling power.
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« Reply #21 on: July 23, 2008, 20:06:10 PM »

any chance of having a thread put into the seatpost and screwing something into and pulling it out?

please note i have NO knowledge of putting thread of that size into anything before people laugh ha ha
No need to laugh it's been tried Sad  I reckon if it could be machined out then i could leave some of it in there, as long as I have a decent amount of post in the frame it should be alright.
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« Reply #22 on: July 23, 2008, 20:11:23 PM »

measure how big the hole is now
get a proper raw bolt that size and put it in the cut down seat post
tighten it right up hard
then put the exposed end in to a vice
pour some boiling water over the frame and twist and pull

with some luck bingo,
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Re: Seatpost problems
« Reply #23 on: July 23, 2008, 20:19:10 PM »

f**k it it pursue that someone further before it costs you an arm and a leg


at the end of the day hes quite deliberately not told you and inferred that its a shim when its quite clearly now ...
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« Reply #24 on: July 23, 2008, 20:20:43 PM »

Well, either that, or.......... if he really did think it was a shim, ask him what sort of post he used.

But I suppose at the risk of f'ing up your frame, it would be better if you could just get your money back.
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Re: Seatpost problems
« Reply #25 on: July 23, 2008, 20:41:45 PM »

You could ream the inside of the post out, so that it does effectively become a shim- since you've got a fair length to work with, a hand reamer could be used without affecting alignment- should be a fair bit cheaper than actually setting it up on a millling machine to do what is effectively the same job. 27.2 is the most common seatpost size, so would make sense to aim for that.
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Re: Seatpost problems
« Reply #26 on: July 23, 2008, 20:51:21 PM »

You could ream the inside of the post out, so that it does effectively become a shim- since you've got a fair length to work with, a hand reamer could be used without affecting alignment- should be a fair bit cheaper than actually setting it up on a millling machine to do what is effectively the same job. 27.2 is the most common seatpost size, so would make sense to aim for that.

There would still be a problem with clamping the post though
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Re: Seatpost problems
« Reply #27 on: July 23, 2008, 21:01:49 PM »

Fair point; I wouldn't fancy cutting a slit in it. Nonetheless, a hand reamer could be used to remove the post outright, although care would be required in the final stages to avoid reaming the frame.
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« Reply #28 on: July 23, 2008, 21:50:48 PM »

Fair point; I wouldn't fancy cutting a slit in it. Nonetheless, a hand reamer could be used to remove the post outright, although care would be required in the final stages to avoid reaming the frame.
It would also need to be a stepped reamer.  At the moment the seat tube wont clamp up safely due to the thickness of the tube.
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Re: Seatpost problems
« Reply #29 on: July 24, 2008, 07:26:42 AM »

You tried the hacksaw blade approach yet?

Time consuming but doable...
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