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Re: Trail vandalism at Cannock Chase
« Reply #15 on: July 23, 2008, 19:36:39 PM »

Quote from: Harry Barn-Owl on July 23, 2008, 17:59:02 PM

Quote from: Moobs on July 23, 2008, 12:28:07 PM

id rather not deal with the chesssy chase builders

What the hell is that supposed to mean? So someone's put hours of work in on trails that you can turn up and ride, and you just tell them it's s**t and you don't want to deal with them? Why *was* it s**t for you? How could it be made better in your opinion? Etc etc.
Get your head out of your arse and start being constructive.

Back on topic, gutted for the venue, could it perhaps be ramblers? If it was organised...

bang on. I mean if I remember Moobs you are involved in the industry through BETD or similar and your attitude is hardly helping them or yourself. Grow up or f*** off.


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Re: Trail vandalism at Cannock Chase
« Reply #16 on: July 23, 2008, 20:36:15 PM »

The jump is, was, after the big clearing.

We don't have a problem with walkers at Cannock as they're official trails. I don't think it's kids as they make a mess. This was a rider really going out of their way to dismantle a jump on someone else's trail because they didn't like it, or because they wanted to steal the wood or hardware. Perhaps whoever did it feels they own the trail and have the right to do it?

Moobs, well. What can I say? You seem happy enough to ride the trails I build and those that the other official builders have created and you know who I am and how to contact me or any of the other trailbuilders and we've heard nothing from you, and then you choose to express your discontent on an internet forum. Come and have a chat at the timing day on Sunday. Get what you need to say off your chest.


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Re: Trail vandalism at Cannock Chase
« Reply #17 on: July 23, 2008, 20:49:24 PM »

iirc that jump was awsome


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Re: Trail vandalism at Cannock Chase
« Reply #18 on: July 23, 2008, 20:54:15 PM »

It had a lovely pop to it, slammed you into the berm and it took some balls to keep it together and hit the next one right straight after the berm.


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Re: Trail vandalism at Cannock Chase
« Reply #19 on: July 23, 2008, 21:34:01 PM »

Aye it was a nice looking jump - was looking forward to hitting it next time I was up.

I'm sorry - but those people who were slagging it off?

STFU!

Seriously. If you have a problem with a feature on a trail, tell the builders face to face, and offer constructive comments on how it could be improved, and then offer to help do the actual building. Rather than sitting on an internet forum hiding behind your keyboard and screen feeling clever!


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Re: Trail vandalism at Cannock Chase
« Reply #20 on: July 23, 2008, 21:40:08 PM »

if thats the jump then thats better than anything ive got around my area so be grateful youve got something so good

as said before why not go help build then you can have things the way youd prefer


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Re: Trail vandalism at Cannock Chase
« Reply #21 on: July 23, 2008, 22:01:18 PM »

Can go fix it up on Sunday?

Alternatively, me and Yatesy should be up the Saturday afternoon if any official builders are up there? Can bring some spades if you don't wanna bring loads o kit?

I don't know what the deal is with Moobs. He's a typical kid when you chat to him but I get on with him fine. He obviously just has some issues expressing his feelings on the forums. Best keep it all to yourself Moobs, or ask a grown up to post for you

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Re: Trail vandalism at Cannock Chase
« Reply #22 on: July 23, 2008, 22:11:46 PM »

We've not got time on Sunday (we want everyone's help with Balboa, and then we have the timing), but we might do some work on Saturday. Drop me a PM on Friday and I'll have some details for you.


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Re: Trail vandalism at Cannock Chase
« Reply #23 on: July 23, 2008, 22:17:41 PM »

why did the race have to be changed to sunday? Sad

i may be able to come but i think i leaving for fort bill on saturday night


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Re: Trail vandalism at Cannock Chase
« Reply #24 on: July 23, 2008, 22:20:06 PM »

None of the organisers apart from myself could make it on Saturday unfortunately.


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Re: Trail vandalism at Cannock Chase
« Reply #25 on: July 24, 2008, 11:27:36 AM »

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I mean if I remember Moobs you are involved in the industry through BETD or similar and your attitude is hardly helping them or yourself. Grow up or f*** off

haha my riding and my work are completely different. Smithy mark doesn't want to help build. I cant help that you think that i am a c**t and i dont really care i just think that people who ride cannock need to get a grip and start to ask people outside the circle of builders whats good or not because there are hundreds of people that ride the tracks and they are the people who should really get a say. Especial now that place like Mac forest have been destroyed.


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Re: Trail vandalism at Cannock Chase
« Reply #26 on: July 24, 2008, 12:01:01 PM »

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I mean if I remember Moobs you are involved in the industry through BETD or similar and your attitude is hardly helping them or yourself. Grow up or f*** off

Sorry, just which planet are you living on?

If you want a say in how trails are built or run you get off your arse and get involved. It's not your divine right to have things the way you want with no effort, who do you think you are?

I'm not a Cannock builder but I have to say your attitude stinks, this community could really do with less arrogant self-important idiots like yourself...


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Re: Trail vandalism at Cannock Chase
« Reply #27 on: July 24, 2008, 12:26:35 PM »

Quote from: Moobs on July 24, 2008, 11:27:36 AM

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I mean if I remember Moobs you are involved in the industry through BETD or similar and your attitude is hardly helping them or yourself. Grow up or f*** off

I take it you've never been on the chasetrails.co.uk forums then, where they announce planning and building days for anyone and everyone to turn up, have their say and get involved? I never said you're a c**t. I said maybe you need to have a little think before posting some of your own special style of comments

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Re: Trail vandalism at Cannock Chase
« Reply #28 on: July 24, 2008, 12:48:37 PM »

Honestly, it's gutting that any of your trails get trashed. It's bang out of order however you look at it! It doesn't matter if you like the trails or not. END OF!

On the other point that has bee raised. Unfortunately it's pretty well known by a lot of riders I've chatted to that you chase boys often dismiss suggestions for trails pretty easily from new comers. I don't know how you decide on things but I must admit, Alex you've not got the best rep amongst many I've chatted to in the past regarding this matter. I know I briefly chatted to you a few years ago and you certainly proved what I've since heard from many others.

See I'm trying to be as diplomatic as possible here, so please take it on as constructive criticism


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Re: Trail vandalism at Cannock Chase
« Reply #29 on: July 24, 2008, 14:43:30 PM »

Ummm, I don't know if you guys have noticed, but at the Chase Trails forum we've gone even one step further to get people involved, by allowing complete outsiders come in and plan a totally new line from top to bottom. We've been trying to get this "trail planning day" organized for a while, but it's difficult to find a date when all the outsiders can make it. But bottom line, we are doing everything we can think of to get people involved and get their advice...

Here's a link by the way: http://www.bikeadventuresuk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5476

There's also an older thread where people have shared ideas.

As for Alex, well I know he's had a bad reputation in the past, but if you look at his responses to this thread I think he's been quite diplomatic lately... There are a lot of other people involved besides Alex as well (including myself).


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