Yeah, if you're a regular Chase rider and want to see something new / better, you should definitely try and get to that trail planning day (which will have to be resheduled, probably for Sept now).  Or just show up before a Racer's Guild practice and give some input.  Believe it or not, we do listen!

I can understand though that it might seem like there is an "inner circle".  I felt like there was before I got involved.  But once I got involved, which means just showing up to build on any of the advertised trail days (now usually before RG), all that went away.  It's pretty friendly and it's a very open forum.  There are a lot of guys giving input now.

I think a lot of people would agree that the RG days have created a good vibe around Cannock.  It's really galvanized the local riders.  So I'm surprised by Moobs comments (who is a RG regular).

It's just Alex's diplomatic skill - you get used to it

Seriously though on the inner circle? Like Aaron says - once you start talking and helping out they are all friendly.

I haven't done a great deal up there in terms of building as I live over an hour away, and it's just not feasible for me to commit. But when I have helped, there has always been opportunity to express my own opinions on how a trail should be, and I've never felt that any tiny suggestion I made was discarded because I wasn't a regular builder!

i'd say dont build a whole new line but better the other lines for example 'little bringwood' could be made so much better. its hard to explain how over the internet but i'll pop alongg sometime and express my opinions

 

I think I destroyed one of the first corners the day before with a monster front wheel washout!  Was amusing to see the corner 3 ft further out the next day!  LOL

Smithy

Right lads lets set one thing straight...

if you don't turn up and build or give constructive criticism to the builders at any site then you have no right to complain about the trails whatsoever.

That's like turning up at a persons garden and complaining that they've built the BBQ on the wrong side of the garden.

I complained about a jump on here in the past and realised i was going about it in the wrong way.....so i turned up to a build day and gave some input.

I had no idea the amount of work these guys put in until then.

for reference Stu, Alex (chase) and Aaron (pslide) are bloody good at what they do.

The north shore type builds they have done have been commended by the forestry commission as the best examples they have seen.

They have worked their arses off with the sites and the trails there are growing exponentially. The area has come on leaps and bounds in the last 24 months or so.

They give up THEIR TIME to build and maintain the trails that WE all ride...and don't pay a penny for....it's not like this is Chicksands where you have to pay the forestry a fiver to ride it because it is a maintained site.

Give them some bloody respect..... I for one really appreciate the work they put in.
Not all of it is always to my taste...but since I haven't got off of my arse and dug for a while i have no right to complain and wouldn't ever dream of it.

These are Forestry commission owned trails...these guys do the building and the maintenance for free and we don't have to pay a penny for that privilege.

.... so they get to choose what gets build at the end of the day.....however THEY CHOOSE to involve outsiders and very often build things to please the masses that they perhaps wouldn't have built.

they are so open to ideas it is unreal.....a few guys wanted a brand new whole trail building.....so they've given up their time organising a full planning day to get everyone who wants a say involved....you can get to say what goes on a trail without even helping to dig!.....

They even run FREE timed run days once a month. They get a medic on site and give up their whole flipping day to get everyone having a good time and plenty of runs with a time attached and post up tabulated results. this is to try and encourage people to get involved with the site

So what planet are people on to be slating these lads on the internet for a jump they've built that might or might not have been to everyones taste.

....if you don't like anything these lads build then get on their forum and arrange to meet up with them and voice some constructive criticism.....simply posting up that you think something is s**t is not going to get anyone anywhere.

And as for whoever trashed the jump...that's just bang out of order, you better pray know one finds out who you are as there is a lot of people that haven't taken kindly to it.....me being one

My 50 pence...keep up the good work lads and ignore the internet warriors.

See you all at the timing day on Sunday.....I'd like to say I'll turn up and dig.... but I have a table booked for Saturday night and I fear I may be quaffing the red as I've had some very good news 

Paul

^^^^^ awsome rant paul 

but too true.

and even if you dont like something then do another trail, there is so much variation for a smallish place. there has to be something to your taste and if there isn't and you cba to help then find other trails

bench cutting? 

(sorry for my ignorance)