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Re: Double Frontflip! the BMX dirt debate goes on!
« Reply #45 on: July 07, 2008, 16:16:45 PM »

mtb djers seem to go way gigger and more stylish any way

not seen many bmx videos then!?
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« Reply #46 on: July 07, 2008, 16:23:53 PM »

Why does our sport obsess about how good we look / are when it comes to BMX.  Its like an illness or something.  Do you think bmx riders site on streetphire harking on about if they have the right image ?
Why if dirt jumping and street is so bad for our image do companies market it in comps and adverts? Because it makes money and why does it make money?  Because people like it and are interested in it.

Correction "Because people who have no idea about the history and culture of MTB or BMX like it and are interested in it." Its an easy sell to the 14 year old kid who wants to look cool; it doesnt do anyone any good. Look what happened to BMX in the late 80's/ early 90's - it was huge and then the whole industry went down the pan. It wasnt sustainable growth, it was just an easy way to make a fast buck with some clever marketing. Now BMX has regrown as a whole host of rider owned companies and its great. I dont know how to make mountain biking and cycling in general have a bigger brighter future, but it sure as f**k isnt stuff like the Quashquai....
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« Reply #47 on: July 07, 2008, 16:27:22 PM »

Shall we dissown 4x too because it can be traced back to bmx racing ?

Um, in a word... YES. 4X needs to (and has started to) use much longer gnarlier tracks that need full suspensions and the ability to negotiate flat turns and rock gardens. Whats the point of having a sport that is basically BMX on bigger bikes?

IMO, the random gate is the best thing that could have happened to 4X.
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« Reply #48 on: July 07, 2008, 16:34:59 PM »

Why then do we sit here going on like this?
But DJ still is heavily based on BMX the tracks, the bikes and even the ridiculously tight jeans. If dirt jumpers were to build completely different jumps so much so that it would be virtually impossible to ride on a BMX then dirt jumping would start to evolve on it's own like the rest of mountain biking is doing.

And until then dirt jumping is just BMX on bigger wheels.


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I can't speak for everyone but I have my own image, as do all my mates, tbh I couldn't give two hoots what people thought about who I am or what I rode.  So what if its better or just the love child of bmx, I frankly love riding trails and no ammount of an image problem is ever going to make me think otherwise.  Why are bmx riders the trend setters, they rip off skate boarders who rip them off in turn.  Everyone is ripping everyone else off when push comes to shove, its called evolution.  I don't know anyone who rides trails in tight jeans but equally dont see what difference it makes. 

With all the flack dirt jumpers face trying to build legal trails, land ownership and insurance you would think the mtb community would show a little support or brotherhood, not try and exclude them on the grounds of it being similar to bmx.

Its not SIMILAR to BMX, its THE SAME as BMX...

Why not call it Dirt Jumping whatever size wheels you have? Then everyone could co-exist in perfect harmony and built trails together.

The reason this doesnt happen is because, imagine if Aaron Chase entered a BMX street comp. His tricks are good and all, but he would get annhilated! The way to keep the fame and glory for the less talented DJ and street riders is to call it a different sport just because the wheels are bigger.
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Re: Double Frontflip! the BMX dirt debate goes on!
« Reply #49 on: July 07, 2008, 16:40:44 PM »

IMO, the random gate is the best thing that could have happened to 4X.
BMX uses random gate now too.
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« Reply #50 on: July 07, 2008, 17:01:33 PM »

IMO, the random gate is the best thing that could have happened to 4X.
BMX uses random gate now too.

I know.
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Re: Double Frontflip! the BMX dirt debate goes on!
« Reply #51 on: July 13, 2008, 02:38:54 AM »

hes sketchy as tho. that flip owt of the park wow thats amazing  Cheesy


this s beta-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJnG-WtEQuw
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« Reply #52 on: August 08, 2008, 23:08:26 PM »

thats mental! if he gets that then hes going 2 win every comp he goes in. what about a triple?  Wink
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