From what I've heard about the 4x races chicky will be holding an autumn 4x event, I've got no idea when though but I'll definitely be there fer sherrrrr! In regards to the dual, I've got no idea but that'd be so much fun, but they've added a metal gate to it recently so hopefully they will!

I was asking about dual the other day - i think its a forgotten discipline that should be brought back!

But that's not a dual track in the traditional, flags and flat turns kind of nature of proper 90's dual.

It's more like the Sea Otter/crankworx dual's which are pretty much modern 4x tracks for 2 people.  If you're gonna race tracks like that you may as well race 4x tracks with more chance of mass pile ups.

Rootes

no dual slalom should not be brought back, its crap and always was,

 all it was, take out moves and who can get up back on their bike quickest, complete crap compared to 4up

 they had dual racing a few years ago at chicksands, but knocked it on the head when the 4x track was built and with good reason

I thought there still was an inside bottom berm that was rideable? It all looked rideable a few weeks back (but I only rode the right hand line - as it looked harder)

deul and dual.

isnt the english language great.

one form of racing was the take out and run as described. the other was lanes. usually one much faster than the other.

crap. thats why it was ditched.

better builders/finances now may be able to build better courses but making both lanes equal is pretty hard i recon.

Exactly, dual should be totally non contact.

If you crash in dual it doesn't matter how quickly you get up (unless the other guy crashes too). The way they run it in the US is:

Rider 1 in lane A, Rider 2 in lane B. Race down the course, stay in lane, never touch each other. When the first rider crosses the finish, the timer starts. When the second rider crosses the finish, the timer stops.

Rider 1 in lane B, Rider 2 in lane A. Race again. If the rider that came 2nd in the first heat wins the second heat by more than the first place rider did in the first heat, they win overall. If not, then they lose.

If you crash in the first heat and come down 30 seconds after the first place rider, you don't have to make up 30 seconds in the second heat. The gap is pegged at a maximum of 1.5 seconds.  So if you come second by 0.1 seconds in the first heat, that's all you have to make up. If you come second by 1.5 seconds, you have 1.5 seconds to make up. If you come second by a whole minute, you still only have 1.5 seconds to make up.

It's less about getting a good gate and defending all the way down the course than 4X, and more about riding as fast as you can. I think it's an equally valid discipline as 4X, but has it's disadvantages for running a race meeting. It's less exciting to watch, and requires you run 4 times as many motos as you would in a 4X knockout (as you only have 2 riders at a time, not 4, and each pairing has to race twice, once in each lane). You could of course just do it on a single run basis, and ignore the averaging of two runs - but one lane will always be faster than the other so that would create arguments when everyone in the slower lane loses and start whining about how unfair it all is.