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« on: August 31, 2008, 18:43:11 PM »

Anyone ever had sports Psychology or anything similar? Had a "taster" session at hamsterley today and I swear it makes a difference. Its basically getting rid of fear/ replacing it with confidence etc. Such as teaching yourself to get off the brakes etc. I know the athertons have a personal Psychologist.
Any ideas and opinions on this?
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« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2008, 18:45:23 PM »

Isn't that what Rootes was studying at uni?

Sure he'll pop up soon.
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« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2008, 18:45:47 PM »

Sounds like a great idea if it really does work  Wink
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« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2008, 18:47:46 PM »

IMO it wont be that helpfull.

what is it? like a 1 or 2 year course?

to be honest you thinking you cant do things is in your head.

you know yourself what your capable off.
you just need confidence in yourself and to belive in yourself.

i cant see how you can be tought otherwise.

(please bare in mind this is just my opinion)
personally i wouldnt worry. but i suppose for some people it might help.

i just find part of riding is progressing through pushing yourself to your limits on your own will. Undecided


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Re: Sports Psychology
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2008, 18:51:32 PM »

I have no idea about the course, as I recieve the lessons not gave them  Wink
Ever been by a drop/line and chickened out even though you know you can do it? Or braked when you didnt have to just to feel safe? This helps you stop that so IMO its worth it.
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« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2008, 18:54:33 PM »

Isn't that what Rootes was studying at uni?

Sure he'll pop up soon.

You're spot on.

Those who say it's not useful either

a) have no clue what they're talking about
b) are uber cynical

I'm currently working with a lecturer who worked for the GB Badminton team at the last Olympics, working with Gail Emms and Nathan Robertson.  It's a hugely in depth area, my dissertation is going to be MTB related with a bit of luck this year.

Psychology makes a HUGE difference to performance if you're coached correctly.  It's becoming more prominant in pro sports, and like you said, the Athertons, along with the whole GB Olympic Cycling team utilise psychologists, and look where it's got/getting them.

It's not as straight forward as you make it sound Interdh5.  If you're curious, any of you.  Drop me a line, I've been coaching Harry (barn owl) on here for a year now using my Psychological approaches...He's quick as FOOK for someone who's only been riding a bike for a year.

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« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2008, 18:59:44 PM »

Rootes, If you could be so kind to hypnotise me to not associate fear with pulling my brake levers i'd be very grateful!

99.9% of DH is in your head!
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« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2008, 19:55:35 PM »

IMO it wont be that helpfull.

to be honest you thinking you cant do things is in your head.

you know yourself what your capable off.
you just need confidence in yourself and to belive in yourself.

i cant see how you can be tought otherwise.

The point is that you're not taught otherwise. Rather, you're taught to really believe it. And how to utilise that belief and confidence when it's needed.

The mind is a powerful thing - we all know how a previous negative experience can have a dramatic effect on how you now approach something, regardless of how you rationalise it.

But the opposite holds true also.

You can dismiss the following as new age guff if you like. But a psychotherapist can allow you to remap feelings at will to some extent e.g. allowing nervous anxiety/stress etc to be perceived and focussed as confidence/strength/power etc by building on your positive experiences.
 
To be fair I've never had this applied to DH, but my thai boxing coach was a great exponent of this kind of thing and it definitely worked for that.
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Re: Sports Psychology
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2008, 21:46:32 PM »

Rootes you're not working with a guy called len marlow are you?
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« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2008, 22:12:33 PM »

I'm not mate, but I know "of" him.

Works at Newc uni and runs/ran our Poly Basketball team.

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« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2008, 22:15:34 PM »

Yeah, he was my sports psyc lecture when i was at college! I know he worked the the uk badmington team, and the basketball team.
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« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2008, 17:45:32 PM »

I'm 100% sure the psycological side of it is the main thing thats holding me back with my riding now, if I get confident (like I did in france) I ride so much better but cant seem to maintain a consistant state of self belief, even with stuff I've got nailed in the past. Maybe I should give this mental stuff a try. Where do I start?
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« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2008, 17:52:42 PM »

I know a couple of shrinks, shall do some enquiring and report back.  Smiley
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« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2008, 17:55:47 PM »

Shrinks are a completely different kettle of cheesy chips Harry.

In answer to your question buddy....there are a lot of professional sports psychologists dotted all over the place, whereabouts are you based?  I've got a list of professional practices around here somewhere.

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« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2008, 18:01:35 PM »

For the next three weeks south wales but shall be moving to derby after that.
My tactic for confidence/skills building so far has been along the lines of build a hardtail and work on getting up to the same sort of speeds as I am on my current susser.
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