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Anyone else as dissapointed? :

Thought it wwas going to be better.

This time... video on a pro DSLR... deffinately not needed. okay I know they're trying to catch up to them 'Red' camera's, but still... that sort of thing is going to kill photography and all skill associated with it really 

Chris

^^^ that looks damn good!

Smanderson

the movie mode is just about keeping up with nikon.

While people get all jizzy over the high ISO shot...

That shot looks to have been taken in pretty bright light - the real test of high ISO is when you take it to a low-light environment with a high dynamic range, such as gig photography, where you have a lot of very bright highlights and a lot of dark shadows.

I'll hold judgement for now, but it looks like Canon have brought themselves up to Nikon's level, probably, but who knows until we see production model photos.

3.9fps is still too slow for most sport, and the RRP, like the D700, is way too high.

and a unit that can pretty easily chop and change some really high quality lenses. how many video camera can do that?

only downsides is no Autofocus in video mode (or at least the nikon is) cos all the autofocus gubbins is above the mirror that gets locked up for video mode.

Any camera man (vid) would tell you that auto-focus in video is a massive, massive no-no. So I don't think it needs to be changed tbh.

But i still see no point whatsoever at video on a camera aimed at the market that the 5d is. Okay, I know Nikon and Canon are obviously going to want to catch up with that 'Red' camera, but f'ing hell that thing is going to take all skill out of photography.

Digital has already killed a lot of the skill it takes to make a perfect print in film. Soon there's going to be none in getting that perfect shot!

I do think the 5d MkII looks good in spec, just not as good as I thought with a downgrade in weather sealing and not using the same aut-focus that was applied to the 40d!

That image is damn clean too, although like Biscuit Fuilled says.... the real test is gig photography!

Mate I do an Art Photography course... most art photographers prefer film to digital, I'm not the only one. I'm talking from an artists point of view.

Even if it does make it easier for a pro to get paid, fact is it's still took away a lot of the skill required to get a perfect image. Don't get me wrong, I love digital and love using my 40d, but there's something so satisying about finishing that medium format print that's took about 3 days to get perfect! Fact is anyone can stick a camera in burst/film mode and take the best still from it.

Technology does advance all the time, and nothing will ever stay in it's current guise, but a lot of people still love film, and still love working hard to get that perfect image. So what if it's not what a pro wants, not everyone wants to take pictures of Britney Spears' latest hair cut.

You know more than me about video probably... seeing as I haven't done it properly since college nearl 3 years ago. So you may be right about auto-focus... I was just told never to use it in production as the lens tends to hunt around a lot... and we were using Canon XL1's.

The Red camera will still be used for photography by some people seeing as you can take a single image at RAW format from it.

How do any of these comments make me sound like an amature though? I know of a lot of pro's who would love to go back to film.... but it's just not readily available enough for them to do so anymore. I was speaking to the guys in a local camera shot and they were saying that even wedding photography is being faded out due to the fact that people are seeing these 'pros' with digital SLR's, and just thinking "oh hey, he's using a digital camera to shoot my best mates wedding.... I think maybe when ours come around I'll just buy one and get a friend to take our photos, it would be cheaper". I've also spoken to a few wedding photographers who have agreed with this, and said that although their is still business in wedding photography... it is slowly on the decline.

No doubt this will even become of some truth to press photographers. It's already there for shooting gigs/concerts, the amount of people with budget SLR's around here who are shooting high profile shows makes it hard for people who actually want to make a career from gig photography as there is just so much competition that there just never used to be. I mean I don't want to make a career from gig photography... I'm just doing it to build a rep for my self and to help me get some extra money as I go through Uni, but I have friends who do. And I do have interest in it, and will probably come back to it at some point in my career.

I guess though film is not what we're talking about... but there is rumour that the reason why Nikon and Canon are producing video ready SLR's is because they're wanting to catch up to this 'Red' camera... as that kind of camera will appeal highly to press photographers. So it would be a big market for them.

Sorry for the jumbled essay... but these are just my views... and it does not make me an amature for having such views.

^ chill out dude, no need to get your panties in a twist. People are only expressing their opinions.