if your using the iscg mount they are well wrong
cant realy use them

i used my e13 with the bb mount no problems

mark

CHeers bud

For some reason even if I had to shave away some of the backplate it doesnt leave enough space for the chain to run over the roller.

Dont realy want to change to a bb mount plate so would rather find out if a specific chain guide would work.

CHeers

Blackspire stinger? As fitted to complete builds with 2 rings and bash.Or are you running a single ring?

Yeah I've been down this road, I managed to get a boxguide to work perfectly on my sx and was really easy to fit. TBH though unless you want to go hacking up chainguides I'd get a bb mounted one. My mate runs a gamut on his with no trouble, I think thats the ISCG one too so that may be another one to think about.

With the right slalom backplate, and the lower roller properly tucked away it'd be very hard indeed to catch it. I haven't managed in three years.

It's worth noting that should you take out the chain decice with a bodged up ISCG system, you're going to have to take the cranks off to reposition/retighten it anyway. What you gain on the swings...