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Re: Mountain Biking Is A Fashion
« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2005, 10:59:08 AM »

All my technology is old but only beacause im a poor student, but i do actually like it this way, parts of my bikes are real old skool, as this is also a type of fashion.  Clothing wise if you saw me in the street you wouldn't know i was a cyclist at all, i dont follow the fashion there, maybe a royal tee under my coat but thats about it.

There is also fashion within the scene's, especially with dirt jumping, you hear of the scene a lot but ive been doing it for years and cant be bothered to stay with the scene and be fashionable, im happy with riding my trails and trying other ones every now and then!
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« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2005, 12:12:06 PM »

It seem that most riders follow a trend whether they realise it or not...

I've been looking into advertising methods aswell.. the diderot effect is an exciting read (not) but explains how once youve bought one nice new component/item, you want and usually get more.



Whats your opinion on this advertisement (scanned from this months dirt)
what relevance does a watch advert have in a mountain bike mag?
I'm not saying its wrong, but merely asking why?
does the illustration at the bottom of the ad have any relevance to mountain biking? why's there a car in there.
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« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2005, 12:25:56 PM »

the image at the bottom of the advert differentiates and personalises the advert for the UK, rather than having some international marketing campaign.

it also uses a "trendy tag" style font on the words, which lets face, is fashionable as hell [urban culture].

also its associated with the rider, robin kitchin, who is uk born....

this makes it easier for the uk to relate to the person/product and thus makes them think they'll be able to do what he does, or be "more like him" etc.
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« Reply #18 on: November 11, 2005, 14:19:30 PM »

The title "Mountain biking is a fashion" implies that its the act of mountain biking that is subject to fashion.  In this area you have the changes in how people ride their bikes - the development of the man made trail centres is worth investigation, the switch from XC races to endurance events, the development and continued evolution of DH bikes into a seperate entity and the growth of the DJ scene and the cross over of that and 4X with BMX.
On a wider stage you have the media's increasing use of MTB imagery in advertising, the growth of some clothing brands that have built their reputation through their assosciation with MTBs.
Finally you have the cheap pseudo mountain bikes sold ubiquitously to people who want a bike that looks like a MTB even though it is useless for their purpose and worse for real MTBing.

Just a few of my thoughts...
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« Reply #19 on: November 11, 2005, 14:24:41 PM »

Quite an intresting topic thats going here, in my view mountain biking is a fashion, but it means different things to different people. Some people just have the bike and kit and stand about slagging off peoples riding style. The people who just ride as much as possible couldn't care about the 'rich kids' with little ability, so you could say its become fashionable to not care what bike you have,a kind of being cool is being counter cool if you see my point. Thats all a bit thoughtfull for a friday afternoon.
 
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« Reply #20 on: November 11, 2005, 15:38:25 PM »

the rider is suposadly gee atherton (name in top right hand corner)

who is sponsered by animal (relivance)

and the advertt is simply magazines dont make much money on there sales to the public so they have to fill a sertain amount of pages with advertisements to account for this
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« Reply #21 on: November 11, 2005, 15:41:34 PM »

thanks people,

ColDTea: you've mentioned a few things there that i hadn't thought of, and the title will eventually be narrowed down but it doesnt mean that i cant comment in brief on all the elements of fashion in cycling. Some good points. Hardatils, gazzaloddis, bash guards, upside down forks, disc brakes could all be catergorised as fashion items with a function, while a leopard print spray job, or saddle is realy just for the style conscious. TLD helmets have a good mix, looks and function.

the_chosen_llama: i was interested that animal aims products primarily at non-motor sports, and wondered why there was none of these sports encorporated in the graphic. Not everyone knows of robin, nor his links with animal.

Rangerider: Would you have even considered the product without the nathan and sams endorsements? for example i see a new pedal on a website, but im not sure if i should pay the price being as i havent heard any news in the media about the products performance, in choosing this new pedal you could be joining a new trend, or you could be risking your hard earned money. Give steve peat the pedal and it could be an overnight success, an example of lead user involvement.

 
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« Reply #22 on: November 11, 2005, 15:46:46 PM »

the rider is suposadly gee atherton (name in top right hand corner)

who is sponsered by animal (relivance)

and the advertt is simply magazines dont make much money on there sales to the public so they have to fill a sertain amount of pages with advertisements to account for this

Wouldnt you rather see the latest forks on the page, an item relevant to riding, i dont even use a watch while im on my bike for fear of damaging it! But at the same time, if i liked that watch, i could then follow it up. Where is the sport heading, will there be mobile phone adverts in mtb mags when the sport becomes comercialised??
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Re: Mountain Biking Is A Fashion
« Reply #23 on: November 11, 2005, 16:50:50 PM »

I would dissagree with your initial statement "Mountainbiking is a fashion". This because i think the majority of peploe who are in to mtb's are not riding just because other people ride. but riding because they enjoy it.
 However i think there are fashions with in Mountain biking. like a general progression of people in to "Freeriding". However it could also be argued that it's not a fashion just a natural progression, or a relisation/labeling of what has been going on before.
 Also products which succesful people use/wear, are definatly fashionable to a portion of eth biking comunity. so there is fashion there too.
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Re: Mountain Biking Is A Fashion
« Reply #24 on: November 11, 2005, 17:11:48 PM »

A lot of MTBing is fashion related to an extent, but don't forget the vast majority of 'mtbers' who ride
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« Reply #25 on: November 11, 2005, 17:13:44 PM »

the rider IS rob kitchen [it says under the photograph]

the name on the side is just a blatent blag that they have a top rider on their team!!
[come on keep them eyes open!]
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Re: Mountain Biking Is A Fashion
« Reply #26 on: November 11, 2005, 18:44:30 PM »

the rider IS rob kitchen [it says under the photograph]

the name on the side is just a blatent blag that they have a top rider on their team!!
[come on keep them eyes open!]
no, the rider ISNT robin kitchen.
robin kitchen took the photo, gee is riding.
do you really think theres loads of differant people called geoff waugh or steve jones?

anyway, as for mountain biking being a fashion, i think its a really odd thing to want to do a dissertation on.
but when it comes to kit, im going to pay more because i hope it will last longer. my old z1s bent, so obviously it would be prudent to upgrade when i replaced them. i didnt buy boxxers because theyre fasionable, i bought them because my pikes snapped and boxxers have a good reputation. as for colours, if somethings available in different colours then clearly id get the one that looks best. but it would be daft to have that as your main reason for buying.
however, pink stuff clearly is just a fashion, and like most fashions, i expect people will look back in a couple of years and say "bloody hell, i looked like a tit!". and the sooner that happens to bmx and its current penchant for womens clothing, the better.
also, like most fashions, i really dont give a s**t about it.
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« Reply #27 on: November 11, 2005, 18:55:31 PM »

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its a really odd thing to want to do a dissertation on.

Maybe so, but theres the information out there, normally i write a post and get like 4 replies, how many people have replies to this, its the varied opinions that make the dissertation a good one to write.

I've already been round a few bike shops asking their opinions and e-mailed animal for some feedback on the advertisement above, compared to my other title "progression of suspension technology" this is proving quite interesting.

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Re: Mountain Biking Is A Fashion
« Reply #28 on: November 11, 2005, 18:58:19 PM »

fair enough.
whats this for, by the way?
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« Reply #29 on: November 11, 2005, 20:39:48 PM »

final year product design dissertation, 20% of my marks or something... need to get some good research done, all these opinions will form the backbone of the paper.. because i have to look at it from an un-biased angle, argue for and against the title.

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So as mtb'ers what kind of effect do you think these trends are having on 'the scene' ?

On a scale of 1-10, 1 being design function and 10 being design style/image where do you think the mountain bike market lies, closer to the style or the function?
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