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Downhill Club - Rogate will be saved - whos in?
« on: July 05, 2006, 10:38:12 AM »
I KNOW WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO POST TOPICS ON ROGATE BUT THIS IS DIFFERENT.
I SPOKE TO THE FORESTRY COMISSION AND THE BRITISH CYCLING FEDERATION LAST WEEK REGARDS LEASING THE LAND AND INSURING A CLUB.
ITS ALL VERY PROMISING. ITS A PIECE OF CAKE TO PUT TOGETHER.
I WILL HAPPILY SET UP THE CLUB WHICH LOOKS TO COST MEMBERS LESS THAN
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« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2006, 10:40:40 AM »
you cant use pound signs, it deletes half your post.
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« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2006, 10:55:04 AM »
THANKS BUDDY. THIS IS SET TO COST US LESS THAN 10 POUND EACH PER YEAR. WORTH IT TO KNOW YOUR NOT WASTING TIME AND FUEL DRIVING OVER. NOTHING TOO ANAL PLANNED, JUST A HILL FOR RIDERS BY RIDERS SORT OF THING AND HOPEFULLY THE ODD RACE. THE FORESTRY WERE SUPRISINGLY UP FOR THIS SO ITS NOW DOWN TO US. LETS SEE SOME LOVE ON THE FORUM AND A SHOW OF SUPPORT SO I CAN DO THE BUSINESS!
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« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2006, 11:11:43 AM »
First don't post in caps and second it would be a good idea but how will you know that everyone riding there will be part of the club? I go quite alot and alot of the times it's during the week, how will you monitor it?
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« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2006, 11:13:54 AM »
Quote from: [St.Jimmy] on July 05, 2006, 11:11:43 AM
First don't post in caps and second it would be a good idea but how will you know that everyone riding there will be part of the club? I go quite alot and alot of the times it's during the week, how will you monitor it?

That's the main thing, I can't see any way you will stop riders from riding there, gates at the top of courses obviously will not work...

But yes, it would be nice to keep it as a riding spot.
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« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2006, 11:20:34 AM »
Paul T can you PM me the details please.
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« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2006, 11:44:37 AM »
You're supposed to have a permit at the Lookout in Bracknell but no one checks, whats to stop you sliding through the hedge up at Aston Hill rather than going through the gate?  It'll have to be based on trust I reckon.  Doesn't the freeride park at Blanford operate in the same way?
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« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2006, 13:56:01 PM »
I was asking about this the other month, quite interested in helping out in anyway i can, if you could pm me with more information it would be much appreciated. Thanks
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« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2006, 14:01:24 PM »
An element of trust is required for sure. Its taken me this long to do something just because I felt its impossible to police. But this has been a problem since time began on BMX tracks and alike. I thought that that if it was well signed with the fact you must be a member and all members had a tag on the bars or something, non members would stand out and that may be all that is required to keep it in check. As mentioned the other spots have the same vulnerability. It will always be a factor but we can't let it stop progress. I for one would be happy to pay 10 quid and have an official venue we can make really good that stays built regardless of its probable abuse by non members. I guess the thing is to focus on our goal which would be to have control of rogate hill. Core members get what we want out of it and the cost is low so sod it I say, lets get it done.
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« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2006, 14:06:46 PM »
To be honest mate it's a lost cause. That area is due to be felled and there is nothing we can do about it. I'm all for keeping it but at the end of the day we are riding there illegally and the FC can do what they want with it.

Someone tried to do something about it last year but nothing actually happened, I just can't see it happening sorry. Your biggest problems are the felling thats going to be taking place and how to monitor the place.
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« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2006, 14:08:41 PM »
Tavi currently runs on a riding permit basis and the area is looked after by the local riders. Basically riding is only allowed on the weekend so things are only checked then however by having a local riders committee they know when new riders turn up to ride and enforce a one free day riding to see if you like the place and then 1 year membership at 20GBP [damn that pound sign] . You have to carry a membership card with you at all times so if you don't show a committiee member your card then it's no riding for you. The only problem with that is what if the riders tell you to f**** off
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« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2006, 14:32:37 PM »
Some scum may say F off if given the facts but they then would have to ride amongst paying members frowning at them which I imagine they'd only do once. For the best part DH/Freeride people are good folk. Have faith. Rogate is out there too its requires a car and the knowledge. A tag on you bars says your in and the rest should follow or stand out like a sore thumb.
The point remains that as long as enough come forward to cover the annual cost (only about 400 quid) then riding there is legal, the trails can be built without worry and British cycling federation protect us as a club against claims involving non members on our trails. Lets say only 10 people want to do this... at least we 10 members only pay 40 quid each a year, we build it how we like, slowly recruit others and save money on travel to other spots.  Speak to Ian Warby (aston hill) or www.mtb-freeride.com guys, this is how it has to start.
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« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2006, 14:38:46 PM »
Paul I'll PM you later on about it when I get back.
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« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2006, 14:43:12 PM »
Quote from: Paul T on July 05, 2006, 14:32:37 PM
Some scum may say F off if given the facts but they then would have to ride amongst paying members frowning at them which I imagine they'd only do once. For the best part DH/Freeride people are good folk. Have faith. Rogate is out there too its requires a car and the knowledge. A tag on you bars says your in and the rest should follow or stand out like a sore thumb.

Think that would work pretty well,

St.Jimmy
What happened last yr regarding it being made official, where did it all go wrong ?
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« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2006, 14:57:23 PM »
No idea what happened last year. shame. Still we can sort now if we can rally the numbers.
Regards the tree felling. I have spoken to the FC again this arvo and they would make all plans to fell known to us with dates of intended work before leasing to us. They could even adjust any work plans, given how small the area is, so all parties would be happy with what and when it took place and in fact they went as far as saying we could even ask for some trees to remain if they were key to a trail. At present though it seems felling of trees there is not immediately an issue.
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