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« Reply #30 on: November 19, 2009, 16:13:38 PM » |
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We'll see.....
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« Reply #31 on: November 19, 2009, 19:29:29 PM » |
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Not as good as miffy's.
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« Reply #32 on: November 19, 2009, 19:54:14 PM » |
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Not as good as miffy's.
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« Reply #33 on: November 19, 2009, 20:24:01 PM » |
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Don't these keep falling apart because there over engineered?  I'd be highly sceptical of these been for sale anytime soon! Over-engineered suggests something is way stronger than it needs to be....? But no, these don't 'keep falling apart' And yes, they'll be on sale soon. But the chaps at K9 won't let them out until they are perfect. They could have been out and about months, maybe a year ago, and still been a phenomenal machine. But everytime a new idea crops up, it just has to be done, otherwise it wouldn't be completed to the best of their abilities. It'll be worth it  Smithy That's all highly commendable, but, nothing is ever perfect, there will always be little things that can be improved on, so if they go by that ethos it'll never be released...? A friend of mine test rode one a few years ago. Granted, it was a proto but he said it fell apart under him  I've got nothing against the K9 by the way, I think it looks and sounds awesome and I'd love to have a go on one... Hope they get it sorted and released/for sale soon. |
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« Reply #34 on: November 19, 2009, 20:33:07 PM » |
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Don't these keep falling apart because there over engineered? I'd be highly sceptical of these been for sale anytime soon! Over-engineered suggests something is way stronger than it needs to be....? But no, these don't 'keep falling apart' And yes, they'll be on sale soon. But the chaps at K9 won't let them out until they are perfect. They could have been out and about months, maybe a year ago, and still been a phenomenal machine. But everytime a new idea crops up, it just has to be done, otherwise it wouldn't be completed to the best of their abilities. It'll be worth it Smithy That's all highly commendable, but, nothing is ever perfect, there will always be little things that can be improved on, so if they go by that ethos it'll never be released...? A friend of mine test rode one a few years ago. Granted, it was a proto but he said it fell apart under him I've got nothing against the K9 by the way, I think it looks and sounds awesome and I'd love to have a go on one... Hope they get it sorted and released/for sale soon. Exactly. Plus, if you have everything perfect you'll never have anything to step up to, meaning people will get bored of the frame after a few years! |
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« Reply #35 on: November 19, 2009, 20:37:24 PM » |
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and it will rule out all those excuses we all use when we under acheive too ......... "think i have the wrong tires for this stuff " will be about the only thing left lol
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« Reply #36 on: November 19, 2009, 20:47:22 PM » |
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I can't look at it and not think old my old Edge Bikes Blade dh, the swingarm is almost the same, but not a VPP link. Wonder if K9 know of Edge, or is it just chance.
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« Reply #37 on: November 19, 2009, 21:15:53 PM » |
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Alright, it won't be out until they're 'happy with it' I think it's good that they haven't just set a date and whatever is done by then gets released? The Edge Blade is similar and I think it's one of the many MANY bikes they analysed in setting out on the journey of designing and developing the bike. That being it utilises a 4-bar linkage in similar way and uses a nice backbone structure to the rear triangle. Smithy |
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« Reply #38 on: November 19, 2009, 21:31:08 PM » |
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Not as good as miffy's.
Big Dave knows alot of people you know! I'm sure he does, but miffy is often in the office at k9. All the changes from the pre-production bike have been decided a while ago. |
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« Reply #39 on: November 19, 2009, 22:24:45 PM » |
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Hopefully K9 can make a proper crack at buisness, i'll compare to Edge again. Edge had some really good ideas, as do K9, but it all fizzled out, they couldn't make enough money. Be good to see an innovative company make it big.
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« Reply #40 on: November 19, 2009, 22:25:05 PM » |
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Gotta say, I'm really not a fan of the look of the frame. All this skinny tubing and curves reminds me of the '99 Kona Stab. Not that looks is *that* important, but it's still a factor.
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« Reply #41 on: November 20, 2009, 12:49:41 PM » |
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gotta agree with gridds about the problem of actually getting round to releasing it, rolls-royce nearly went under at one point due to it being run by a bunch of engineers who kept coming up with improvements and putting off the release of thier engines to the point where not actually having anything to sell caused financial problems.
There comes a point where it would be better to get something out than hold off any longer. That said if what they are fixing is a reliability issue then fair enough.
Looks interesting and I'm sure it will work, don't see me buying one any time soon though, at £2500 it's becoming more than a hobby lol.
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« Reply #42 on: November 21, 2009, 21:10:10 PM » |
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Interesting topic this! is it just me or are most of the people on hear singing the praises of this bike in some way involved in it?
as i see it- These bikes were tested/data logged on a sandy hill, well more of a mound in oxford being riden by riders that had never been to a mountain or really any experience of downhill riding /racing.
as far as i know untill a yr ago they had never been riden down a hill and even now lecky is not exactly a ruff downhill?
i know j mcnight has been envolved in the testing which is probably the bikes saving grace as this guy can ride.
Even with all the best engineering its still f**kin ugly and looks cheap! which i know isnt the be all but if you think about it i would say at a guess 75% of uk downhillers are just social riders not racers and most want great bikes that look great and this just dosnt, skinny bendy tubes look proper crap! it would be great if luis and his team suceed but bull s**t hype is not the way forward. just get the bike out there and let results speak for themselves good or bad.
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« Reply #43 on: November 21, 2009, 21:33:50 PM » |
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http://dirtmountainbike.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/k9biketest.jpg Skinny, bendy tubes? So... Apart from... umm... Actually i really can't think of many Frame manufacturers who haven't had a Skinny, bendy tubed bike? ... That said, how is that frame Skinny tubed? Unless my google-fu powers unearthed a God like old picture. I think that frame resembles most, if not all of its competition. Front Triangle composing of a - Straight top tube and seat tube, bend down tube.
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« Reply #44 on: November 21, 2009, 21:41:50 PM » |
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Interesting topic this! is it just me or are most of the people on hear singing the praises of this bike in some way involved in it?
as i see it- These bikes were tested/data logged on a sandy hill, well more of a mound in oxford being riden by riders that had never been to a mountain or really any experience of downhill riding /racing.
as far as i know untill a yr ago they had never been riden down a hill and even now lecky is not exactly a ruff downhill?
I'd stopped listening by the time you got to the end of that bit. Now, before I say anything, I have precisely zero to do with the company...but they've done a HELL of a lot more testing, with good (ie. WC capable) riders at a lot more places than you imply. Get your facts right first, criticise once you know what you're criticising. |
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